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Panasonic Reveals Plans for 12-35mm and 35-100mm 'Large Aperture' Lumix X Zoom Lenses

Discussion in 'Micro 4/3 News and Rumors' started by Amin Sabet, Aug 26, 2011.

  1. Amin Sabet

    Amin Sabet Administrator

    Apr 10, 2009
    Boston, MA (USA)
    Japanese site DC Watch today published images from a Panasonic presentation of two "large-aperture" Lumix X (Panasonic's new "premium" lens line) zoom lenses which are expected to be introduced in 2012.

    According to the Google-translated text, the images shown below are "mock-ups" of the lenses.

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    The 12-35mm lens above will have the same angle of view as a 24-70mm lens for 35mm format and a minimum focus distance of 0.24m.

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    The 35-100mm lens above will have the same angle of view as a 70-200mm lens for 35mm format and a minimum focus distance of 0.85m.

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    Both lenses are designated as Power O.I.S. lenses (Panasonic's latest optical image stabilization), and both are expected to be of metal construction.

    The million dollar question is just how fast (f-stop range) these lenses will be. Zoom lenses covering a similar angle of view in other systems (35mm and APS-C formats) have typically featured a constant f/2.8 relative aperture, while (non-Micro) 4/3 zoom lenses have been as fast as f/2 constant. Based on the size of the concept lenses, constant f/2 does not seem a possibility here, and variable aperture (ie, f/2.8-4) seems likely. Hopefully, a constant f/2.8 will be made possible by the miracle of software-corrected distortion.

    I know a lot of folks were holding out for the heavily-rumored fast Panasonic 12-50mm lens, but for reasons I previously mentioned, the two 3x zooms announced today make more sense and should be a great addition to our system.

    Source: DC Watch (Google translated) via 1001 Noisy Cameras

    [Thanks to all who sent this to me. I was waiting for a proper source to whom to attribute the original story and images before posting it on this site. -Amin]


    I did my best to scale (based on lens mount dimensions) the images of the collapsed new 14-42 and the 12-35 concept lens for a size comparison with the Olympus 14-42, Sony 18-55, Pana 14-45, Pana 14-42, and Samsung 18-55:

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    I'm not sure which impresses me more, how small they were able to make the new 14-42 or how small they are presenting the "fast" 12-35 to be. Again, these are roughly scaled based on the lens mount dimension measured from small images. The real 12-35mm lens may be larger than depicted!
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  2. Jonathan F/2

    Jonathan F/2 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 10, 2011
    Los Angeles, USA
    That 35-100 will be my dream lens! The full frame 70-200 is my favorite focal length! I wonder if Pany will make teleconverters as well?
  3. zpierce

    zpierce Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Sep 26, 2010
    Minneapolis, MN
    I agree, I'd love that 35-100. I just hope they aren't zoom by wire like the other new ones. I understand the need for those with video but I don't really shoot video and would find that kind of zoom annoyingly slow.
  4. Promit

    Promit Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jun 6, 2011
    Baltimore, MD
    Promit Roy
    Panasonic is really stepping up the lens game. Oly will have to work hard to keep up, the 12mm and 45mm are looking to be fabulous at least. Good things all around...unless you're a NEX shooter! ;) 
  5. zpuskas

    zpuskas Mu-43 Veteran

    Feb 25, 2011
    Santa Barbara, CA
    A 12-35 would be about the only lens I would ever need....now it's waiting time!
  6. sprinke

    sprinke Mu-43 All-Pro

    Apr 5, 2011
    Pasadena, CA
    Looking at the pics and how they are built, I would guess it's a regular manual zoom.
  7. Jonathan F/2

    Jonathan F/2 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 10, 2011
    Los Angeles, USA
    Pro lenses only means one thing...Pro spec bodies! :wink:
  8. Amin Sabet

    Amin Sabet Administrator

    Apr 10, 2009
    Boston, MA (USA)
    I'm hoping the lack of a "Power Zoom" toggle on the lenses indicates that zoom will be mechanically-linked.
  9. KVG

    KVG Banned User

    May 10, 2011
    yyc(Calgary, AB)
    Kelly Gibbons

    25/1.4 ?
  10. drizek

    drizek Mu-43 Veteran

    Aug 5, 2011
    45 macro

  11. Jonathan F/2

    Jonathan F/2 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 10, 2011
    Los Angeles, USA
    I hope these are fixed length zoom lenses. Lenses of this build and quality shouldn't change length.
  12. Amin Sabet

    Amin Sabet Administrator

    Apr 10, 2009
    Boston, MA (USA)
    The Oly 14-35/2 ($2300), Canon 24-70/2.8 ($1300), and Nikon 24-70/2.8 ($1700) all change length when zooming. I'd be surprised if the Pana 12-35 didn't.
  13. John M Flores

    John M Flores Super Moderator

    Jan 7, 2011
    Pentax DA* 16-50 F2.8 (~$800) does
    Pentax DA* 50-135 F2.8 (~$1000) doesn't
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  14. nickthetasmaniac

    nickthetasmaniac Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jan 11, 2011
    The CZ 24-70/f2.8 does as well... As do the Sigma and Tamron 17-50(ish) fast zooms for APS...

    Every fast standard zoom on the market extends... Although, as John points out with the DA* 50-135, that's not necessarily the case for fast tele zooms.
  15. Blastop

    Blastop Mu-43 Regular

    Jun 20, 2011
    That's how they get you, man, that's how they get you.
  16. pictor

    pictor Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Jul 17, 2010
    I suppose that there will be an X body, too.
  17. Iansky

    Iansky Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Dec 26, 2009
    The Cotswolds, UK
    That 12-35 looks like a great lens but it will need to have a fast fixed aperture to compliment the metal construction, all of this equates to a high price.

    What it will need to convince me is a High Spec/Pro quality GF1 replacement to use them on - again at a sensible price (I am not interested in a larger footprint DSLR type "G" series).

    I will wait and see and if it does not transpire, until then/if not I will stick with my trusty GF1.
  18. Dangermouse1968

    Dangermouse1968 Mu-43 Regular

    May 26, 2011
    Completely agree with this, although I'm not sure I will ever be in a postion to be able to afford this stuff.

    One of the many things I like about m4/3 is that it is not so expensive. I hope Pana / Oly continue to support the more budget kit like we have now as well. I have my lovely GF1 (and would buy a back up body if something came along at a good price, esp in red!) and 20 mm. I will buy the Oly 45 mm next and then just need to decide what to do about wide angle. Like the reviews of the Oly 12mm but it's not pancake and it's too expensive :-( I know there is a lot of support for the Pana 14 pancake on here but some of the techincal reviews ("monsterous distortion" I read recently!!!) and the fact that 24 mm was my fav landscape FOV, means I'm unsure.
  19. JJJPhoto

    JJJPhoto Mu-43 Veteran

    Jul 8, 2011
    Cincinnati, OH
    Jerry Jackson Jr
    The more I look at the size of these lenses the more worried I get about the apertures. I doubt they can be this small AND deliver f/2.8 constant apertures. The wide lens might be 2.8-4 and the tele might be 2.8-3.5 but I would be amazed if Panasonic found a way to make zoom lenses this small with f/2.8 constant apertures.

    If they don't have f/2.8 constant apertures then I will probably pass on these and wait for Oly to release some f/2.8 zooms for m4/3.
  20. ~tc~

    ~tc~ Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Oct 22, 2010
    Houston, TX
    I don't care about price. Fast zooms are always expensive.

    I don't care about size. So long as the engineers do their job, they will be smaller than any other mount option.

    I don't care about having a "pro" body to mount them on. It makes a helluva lot more sense to mount a "pro" lens on an "enthusiast" body than the other way around.

    I care about availability. Let's face it, this is the answer to m43 "ISO problem" - a place they can significantly leapfrog the competition, and there is a market out there RIGHT NOW. I am not interested in another slow lens - they have double covered the entire range. We need an upgrade path if they want to encourage more spending - I will not be buying any more lenses until faster aperture versions come out.

    Every month they wait is money they are not making from me.
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