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Panasonic Leica 100-400mm on EM5 Mark 2. Impressions and tips?

Discussion in 'Native Lenses' started by Peter Bond, Nov 14, 2017.

  1. Peter Bond

    Peter Bond Mu-43 Regular

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    Sep 27, 2016
    Melbourne, Australia
    Peter
    I've been researching a zoom lens for wildlife and bird photography, and have recently put in an order for this lens. I would appreciate Olympus users, particularly EM5 Mark 2 users, impressions of using this lens on their camera. Tips on achieving the best results, and camera and lens settings, to maximise results, would be much appreciated.
     
  2. Robstar1963

    Robstar1963 Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jun 10, 2011
    Isle of Wight England UK
    Robert (Rob)
    My limited experience (used with EM1.2) would suggest keeping away from the maximum 400mm setting
    I have achieved good results up to about 365mm but imo the performance drops off at the far end
    At lower focal lengths up to about 250mm the lens is stunning with very high contrast and sharpness
    Image stabilisation is very good and the O.I.S in the lens should again imo be used in preference to the IS in the Mk2 - the image stability in the EVF is better with the O.I.S which suggest that the actual stabilisation is better
    Take a look at the showcase thread for this lens to see what people are achieving

    Showcase - Panasonic Leica 100-400mm f/4-6.3 DG Vario-Elmar
     
  3. Peter Bond

    Peter Bond Mu-43 Regular

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    Sep 27, 2016
    Melbourne, Australia
    Peter
    Thanks for your suggestions Robstar.
     
  4. panamike

    panamike Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Jul 5, 2016
    Lincolnshire UK
    I sometimes use it on the EM10MK11, i love the outfit but you may have to forget AFC i use AFS as i couldn't get the results i wanted on AFC.
    Apart from that its a great combination, Rob is not wrong but dont be put off the 400mm end too much and dont be afraid to use it wide open.

    EM10MK11, 400mm f6.3, lens IS.

    chaff.
    E-M10MarkII    LEICA DG 100-400/F4.0-6.3    400mm    f/6.3    1/2500s    ISO 1250
     
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  5. Peter Bond

    Peter Bond Mu-43 Regular

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    Sep 27, 2016
    Melbourne, Australia
    Peter
    Thanks panamike. Love your capture!
     
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  6. AllanG

    AllanG Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Aug 26, 2014
    Brisbane, Australia
    Allan
    P8100078.
    E-M1MarkII    ---            
    I find that over 95% of my images are shot at 400mm and I find the sharpness etc. more than acceptable
     
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  7. D7k1

    D7k1 Mu-43 All-Pro Subscribing Member

    Nov 18, 2013
    Although I shoot a Gx8, I find this lens acceptable also at 400mm - 400mm in running jeep @ iso 3200 handheld in bad weather:

    94148958755443-5a08808e516b3-.
     
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  8. Peter Bond

    Peter Bond Mu-43 Regular

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    Sep 27, 2016
    Melbourne, Australia
    Peter
    Thanks AllanG. Superb BIF capture.
     
  9. Peter Bond

    Peter Bond Mu-43 Regular

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    Sep 27, 2016
    Melbourne, Australia
    Peter
    Thanks. Great capture.
     
  10. bassman

    bassman Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Apr 22, 2013
    New Jersey
    The Bassman
    Used on safari in Africa last summer on my E-M1.2. Great images, throughout the zoom range. Most hand-held.

    I used OIS, which worked better in my testing than IBIS.
     
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  11. Peter Bond

    Peter Bond Mu-43 Regular

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    Sep 27, 2016
    Melbourne, Australia
    Peter
    Thanks for your suggestions bassman. Already set to OIS.
     
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  12. Peter Hammer

    Peter Hammer Mu-43 Regular

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    Nov 16, 2017
    There is a potential problem with this lens. We have 2 separate lenses grind metal off the lens mount and deposit it inside the camera and in one case it destroyed the shutter on an Olympus OMD-EM1Mk2. The lens seems to be often very much harder to put on and take off on any OMD body. Some of the lenses seem to be missing the rear dust seal as well. If that is missing the lens is much easier to put on and take off so it's worth checking. DSC_0013.JPG
     
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  13. panamike

    panamike Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Jul 5, 2016
    Lincolnshire UK
    Can you post a picture of the lens mount showing the damage
     
  14. Peter Hammer

    Peter Hammer Mu-43 Regular

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    Nov 16, 2017
    No I can't because it isn't at all easy to see but you can see the result from the photo above. I loaned this camera to a friend now.
     
  15. panamike

    panamike Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Jul 5, 2016
    Lincolnshire UK
    Unfortunately the resulting picture above only shows something in the camera, if ime honest Panasonic would say it looks like something thats more likely to come from a cheap Chinese alloy manual adapter,if it really is from the 100-400 mount it needs more serious investigation.
    Ime meeting the Panasonic technical rep on Saturday for a hands on with the G9 and would have liked to have been able to discuss this with him but would need images of the lens mount showing the issue.
     
  16. Peter Hammer

    Peter Hammer Mu-43 Regular

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    Nov 16, 2017
    Clean the inside of the camera and put the lens on 2 and 3 times and see silvery metal there is pretty clear indication that it is a problem with the lens. I just tried my new 100-400 and it deposits metal inside the body of my EM1Mk2 but not in the EM5Mk2. I think the problem is the sealing gasket is too stiff so it pushes the lens mount too much until it compresses.
     
  17. DustyGeorge

    DustyGeorge Mu-43 Regular

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    Jun 30, 2017
    San Antonio, TX
    Peter, I think I've found the problem. See my post in this thread The Panasonic 100-400mm is not weathersealed on Olympus OMD bodies
     
  18. Peter Bond

    Peter Bond Mu-43 Regular

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    Sep 27, 2016
    Melbourne, Australia
    Peter
    Tha
    I now own both lenses, and ,unlike you, have been impressed with the performance of PL. Yes it is heavier, but providing I use a tripod or monopod, I find that it definitely out performs the Olympus 75-300. That said, the 75-300 remains a good lens and is certainly less taxing on the arms.
     
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  19. Ben Bonin

    Ben Bonin Mu-43 Rookie

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    Oct 13, 2017
    I've also been using this lens on an EM10 MkII, which shouldn't be too far off from your EM5-II in terms of the imaging pipeline. I upgraded from the first generation Panasonic 100-300. I've generally been pleased with performance, though I have also noticed a tendency for softness at maximum focal length and aperture (which seems to be common for telephoto zooms writ large). That said, I'm not entirely convinced that it isn't largely a matter of technique -- the extra 100mm of focal length seems to really amplify the challenges associated with hand-holding a telephoto lens, not to mention any distorting environmental effects (haze, air pollution, etc.). I find it especially important at 400mm to keep the shutter speed as high as you can (preferably 1/400 second or faster, light permitting), using ISO to compensate. I do find that the better optical quality allows me to push ISO a little bit further (up to 3200 and even 6400 under the right conditions) than was the case with the 100-300. I've attached a couple pics, both at 400mm. The Pewee was shot at f6.3-1/320-3200, while the squirrel was shot at f8.0-1/125-2000. Both were shot RAW and processed in LR.

    Bottom line is that shooting with a super telephoto is hard, and it's easy to jump the conclusion that there's something wrong with the lens, when it's probably the need for more practice.

    Pewee2.
    One Eyed Stare.
     
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