I'm aware these cameras aren't typically new in the market and so are my options. I just purchase a "like new" G7 from amazon with the kit lens for a relatively reasonable price I'd assume ($500-600). So for about a hundred more I couldn't have had it brand new, which I couldn't do because the item already shipped, so I'll have to wait until it arrives if I want to do anything about it. Just recently I came across a used GH4 with the panasonic 12-35mm 2.8 lens for about $850-900. So my question is, which is the better bargain considering my options are both used items and the manageable difference in price in terms of camera functionality and features or should I just wait for a brand new G80 for that price? I don't necessarily mind used items but G7 for the lower cost, GH4 for the price and G80 if I was to consider the price for the used GH4. Thanks!