Panasonic discontinuing 12-32?

Discussion in 'Micro 4/3 News and Rumors' started by Holoholo55, Jun 16, 2017.

  1. Holoholo55

    Holoholo55 Mu-43 All-Pro Subscribing Member

    Aug 13, 2014
    Honolulu, HI
    Walter
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  2. tkbslc

    tkbslc Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    If they are making a mk II, then I hope they fix the issue with the shell falling off and maybe add some kind of rudimentary manual focus ring. It wouldn't take much, I mean the focus ring on my old Canon kit lens was just a raised ring around the extending front element (shown below). But it did the job.




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  3. Christop82

    Christop82 Mu-43 Veteran

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    It's definitely not their best design. The 14-42 X pancake is much better in build quality and even slightly smaller . I would like to see a manual zoom based on its design.
     
  4. Sejanus.Aelianus

    Sejanus.Aelianus Mu-43 Regular

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    I am very pleased with my 12-32s (I have two as they came with my GM5s). I'd say they're as good as kit lenses get for my purposes.
     
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  5. pake

    pake Mu-43 All-Pro Subscribing Member

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    Teemu
    99% of these "x got discontinued?"-posts are total BS at 43rumors.com. Either clickbaits or the guy never learns. It's NOT the first time BHPhoto "declares" something as discontinued...
     
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  6. stagor

    stagor Mu-43 Veteran

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    Yes but not nearly as sharp!
     
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  7. Christop82

    Christop82 Mu-43 Veteran

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    I've had both, my copy was just as sharp and maybe sharper. Even Ming Thein notes it's sharpness. Panasonic updated it's firmware which dramatically improved its OIS. I suspect it's original firmware issues lead to some bad experiences . I've since sold it, because I rarely use a kit lens. Perhaps I had a bad copy of the 12-32. I sold it almost immediately after I purchased it. It just felt like a cheap kit lens. The 14-42x has a premium feel to it that I liked much better. To me it just seems like the 12-32 was a step back, with the exception of its optical quality.
     
  8. Sejanus.Aelianus

    Sejanus.Aelianus Mu-43 Regular

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    Not only is it sharper but while you can crop a 42mm FOV out of a 32mm image you can't pull 12mm out of a 14mm frame.
     
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  9. Christop82

    Christop82 Mu-43 Veteran

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    Sep 10, 2016
    That's a strange case to make. Just as many people find the 42mm focal length more useful than the 12mm. There is a reason the resale price of the 12-32 is lower than the 14-42x. I'm not saying the 12-32 is a bad lens, but it's obvious it's build quality took a hit as a cost saving measure for Panasonic.
     
  10. Mattyh

    Mattyh Mu-43 Regular

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    I've the 12-32mm and have had a few 14-42 X lens, and to be honest they are both great lenses it doesn't do any harm to own both of them.

    The X lens is great for video and to turn your camera into a compact, the 12-32mm, well it's 12mm, compact and very light.

    As to which is sharpest ? Both, neither, who really cares, really?
     
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  11. tjdean01

    tjdean01 Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Any of the 14-42 lenses are useless to me anymore after getting the 12-32. I mean, it's friggin' TWELVE! Not easy to get that in a lens for this price. There's the old Olympus 12-50 which is pretty big and then there's the $600 12mm prime (f/2, I think). But I can get a very nice 45/1.8, 42/1.7, or 30/2.8, all very sharp for very low prices.
     
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  12. Sejanus.Aelianus

    Sejanus.Aelianus Mu-43 Regular

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    Average sale prices on eBay last few months: 12-32 - £125 14-42 - £95 (Prices for M43 lenses only).
     
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  13. Christop82

    Christop82 Mu-43 Veteran

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    Sep 10, 2016
    14-42x refers to the power zoom.
     
  14. Sejanus.Aelianus

    Sejanus.Aelianus Mu-43 Regular

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    That would be the one which a reviewer described as "Optically no better than kit lens" ( Panasonic Lumix G X 14-42mm PZ Lens Review ) while another described it as "a surprisingly compact albeit not superb kit zoom lens" and gave it 2.5 to 3 stars out of 5 ( Panasonic LUMIX G X VARIO PZ 14-42mm / F3.5-5.6 ASPH. / POWER O.I.S. - Samples & Verdict ) then went on to add "The lens suffers from a relatively high degree of lateral CAs".
     
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  15. Christop82

    Christop82 Mu-43 Veteran

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    "Optically, the 14-42X is a bit of a surprise: it’s excellent, even used at maximum aperture. You don’t lose any sharpness close up, either. This is important seeing as anything much beyond f8 is severely diffraction limited on M4/3 cameras anyway due to the very small pixel pitch. Use this one wide open without issue, though stop down one stop to 5.6-8 to gain a very small improvement in the corners. There were two aspects of performance I found especially impressive – very low CA, and impressive contrast. " Ming Thein
    Lens review: The Panasonic Lumix Vario PZ 14-42/3.5-5.6 X G
    " If I'm going to trust a review, it's going to be from someone I trust." Christop82
     
  16. Sejanus.Aelianus

    Sejanus.Aelianus Mu-43 Regular

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    There's no point in arguing any more. I'm happy with the 12-32 and you're happy with the 14-42. Let's leave it there before we start to bore the other members.
     
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  17. Christop82

    Christop82 Mu-43 Veteran

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    Sep 10, 2016
    I'm not saying the 12-32 isn't a good lens. Optically they are nearly identical. If you've handled both side by side, you cannot come to any conclusion other than the 12-32 is inferior in build quality. Hopefully Panasonic will make a 12-32 II that's of equal build as the 14-42x. I no longer have either lens, but I think both do a great job at being compact zooms.
     
  18. spdavies

    spdavies Mu-43 All-Pro Subscribing Member

    Apr 9, 2013
    Hawaii
    Stephen
    Sharp as it may be, the 12-32 is a defective design.
    It is put together with an inferior glue and it falls apart.
    There should be a repair recall put out on it.
    Sharp, but very cheaply made . . .
     
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  19. BleedingGumsMurphy

    BleedingGumsMurphy Mu-43 Regular

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    Mar 19, 2017
    Thailand
    From Photozone.ae . Which has made me wonder whether I should get a 12-60 kit lens to replace the 12-32, but just saw one in a store for $523, the kit 35-100 was a similar price which I got for $135. Anyway, I agree the 12-32 should be discontinued, as long as a mark 2 is released :
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  20. cptobvious

    cptobvious Mu-43 Veteran

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    Jan 8, 2013
    I wonder if they're just discontinuing the metal mount 12-32s, since the 12-32s that come as kit lenses are apparently plastic mounts now. In addition to being cheaper to make, there's probably less torque needed to mount/dismount the lens, meaning possibly less shells coming loose?