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Panasonic 14-140 vs 14-45

Discussion in 'Native Lenses' started by adam, Apr 21, 2010.

  1. adam

    adam Mu-43 Regular

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    Apr 21, 2010
    Maryland
    From what I've read (dpreview), the Panasonic 14-140 is very sharp at the short end of the range. For those who have used both, how does it compare to the Panasonic 14-45 kit lens in the shared range?

    (I haven't bought anything yet. I am trying to decide between the G1/14-45/45-200 and the GH1/14-140. I've got an Oly 70-300 that I will use with an adapter for longer range until the Panasonic 100-300 is available.)
     
  2. BillN

    BillN Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jan 19, 2010
    SW France
    as an aside the 14 140 is expensive ........ that is what is putting me off it

    but it seems to get rave reviews
     
  3. adam

    adam Mu-43 Regular

    68
    Apr 21, 2010
    Maryland
    Yeah, but when one is starting from scratch, there's only about a $120 price difference between the GH1/14-140 kit and the G1/14-45 kit with a 45-200. So if the image quality is similar, and I already have a solution to cover the focal length gap, the GH1 kit is tempting.

    The thing that worries me is that I might get addicted to shooting video and forget to take stills if I have a GH1 :)
     
  4. Boyzo

    Boyzo Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Mar 3, 2010
    Adam its an excellent lens and the GH1/14-140 sounds the way to go you've got movie and a better sensor


    Look at the MTF charts on the Pany site the 14-45 is a little better in the corners than the 14-40 @14mm (no 45mm comparo)
    Green graph .... solid .... (dashed is diagonal)
    Blue is lens contrast.

    I tend to use its long end more than the 14-45 end but overall its a class lens
    a tall order for a 10X zoom

    My samples .. EXIF are in the gallery files
    http://boyzo.smugmug.com/Flowers/Lumix-14-140/10310721_xrQSo#712540208_mRYfn
     
  5. flipGTO

    flipGTO Mu-43 Regular

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    Feb 8, 2010
    San Diego, CA
    Is this the same Adam on fourthirdsphoto?

    Anyway, I don't have much experience with the lenses you mentioned, but will suggest the 20mm f1.7. I do own the 14-140, but it sees little to no use on my GF1. I will say that its build quality is better than the Oly 70-300 and I wouldn't hesitate to use it if I had a bigger m4/3 body like the G1 or GH1.
     
  6. Amin Sabet

    Amin Sabet Administrator

    Apr 10, 2009
    Boston, MA (USA)
    Shooting both lenses at the lowest common f-number, my impression is that at 14mm, the 14-45 is a better performer. At 25mm, the 14-140 may be a little better, and at 45mm they are pretty well matched. At f/8, there's nothing much to choose between them at any focal length.
     
  7. adam

    adam Mu-43 Regular

    68
    Apr 21, 2010
    Maryland
    Yeah, the dpreview tests seem to be pretty close to what the MTF charts indicate. Which is generally a good thing :) I like your flower pics...the lens has pretty nice bokeh, which is not something I thought to worry about.

    Yeah, that's me. Didn't I sell you a lens a few months ago? :)

    The 20 f/1.7 is definitely on my list for low light, regardless of which option I select.

    That's pretty much what I wanted to know. If the 14-45 is better at 14mm, that makes my decision easier.

    I'm kinda leaning towards the G1/14-45/45-200 at this point...I really can't see myself shooting that much video, and size does matter...
     
  8. flipGTO

    flipGTO Mu-43 Regular

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    Feb 8, 2010
    San Diego, CA
    Yes, I used the 50-200 at the Senior Bowl that week and then used it again at a wedding a couple of months ago.

    You really can't go wrong with either kit. Or maybe you should hold out until the G2 comes out. The G2 will be the 2nd m4/3 body that I purchase unless they announce a GF2 with a touchscreen soon.
     
  9. adam

    adam Mu-43 Regular

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    Apr 21, 2010
    Maryland
    Oh, the Senior Bowl...how I wish the Denver Broncos had actually watched it...

    I've thought about holding out, but it doesn't really make that much sense...I'm not interested in any of the new features of the G2, and the prices of the G1 and the GH1 have dropped as far as they're going to until the G2 becomes available in quantity...at which point I'm going to be getting ready to go on my honeymoon and need to have my camera situation straightened out. I'm kinda curious as to what Sony has in the pipeline, but all of the rumors say no EVF and that's a dealbreaker for me.
     
  10. adam

    adam Mu-43 Regular

    68
    Apr 21, 2010
    Maryland
    B&H posted a 10-condition used GH1 kit for $1050. I bought it this morning.

    Pics later if the sun comes out...
     
  11. cosinaphile

    cosinaphile Mu-43 All-Pro

    Dec 26, 2009
    new york city
    nice purchase adam
     
  12. vincechu

    vincechu Mu-43 Regular

    wow good price! for around that much you get the body only in the UK, looking forwards to some pics :)
     
  13. adam

    adam Mu-43 Regular

    68
    Apr 21, 2010
    Maryland
    First shot:

    [​IMG]

    Camera is a pleasure to shoot with. Viewfinder is freakin' ridiculous. 14-140 balances well. Autofocus is fast and SILENT...hard to judge accuracy on what I've done so far...it's kit-lens soft, but I was shooting wide-open at marginal shutter speeds so I don't know how much of that is the lens's fault :) Exposure bracketing is convenient, and I like having the AF mode switch on a dial.

    (Ordinarily I'd have gotten this shot without resorting to HDR...I was rushing to get to a skyline spot while I still had enough light to shoot handheld and didn't get where I wanted to and didn't have time to mess around. Also, I miss my tripod :( RRS plate is coming on Friday...)

    I'm a tad worried about the 14-140 sharpness, but I won't complain until I've had a chance to shoot on a tripod. Other than that, I sense some great photos in my near future...
     
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  14. pete_t

    pete_t Mu-43 Regular

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    Apr 24, 2010
    UK
    I have both the 14-45 and 14-140mm lenses and used both extensively - outside in reasonable or good light. I prefer the 14-140 with my GH1 for three reasons:

    1. I've seen less fringing or flare from the 14-140 than 14-45.
    2. Handling of the 14-140 on the GH1 feels better than the 14-45 on the GH1, despite (probably because of) the extra weight. However, the 14-45 is much better on the GF1 than the 14-140 - feels better balanced.
    3. The range is superb on the 14-140 and the image quality stopped down to f8 is more than adequate for web or prints up to A3. The limitations printing larger are not the lens but the sensor and resolution although with care larger prints are possible.

    The GH1 and 14-140mm has become my standard combination when out walking - replaces a Canon 1Ds 3 and 24-104mm (which has paid for quite a bit of m4/3 kit!)
     
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  15. apicius9

    apicius9 Mu-43 Veteran

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    Feb 1, 2010
    Honolulu, Hawaii
    I have the 14-45, the 14-140, and the 45-200. To be honest, for 'normal' photography without pixel peeping I don't see much of a difference between the first two ones and seriously think about selling the 14-45 and the 45-200 at this point. The 20mm + the 14-140mm + the future 100-300mm should be a perfect AF set, especially considering that I shoot with manual lenses more than 50% of the time. For the times that I want the convenience of an AF lens, the added range of the 14-140 clearly trumps the smaller size of the 14-45 or the combo with the 45-200 for me - that is on the GH1, I might see it differently on the smaller bodies.

    Stefan