1. Reminder: Please use our affiliate links for holiday shopping!

P14-140mm f3.5-5.6 vs P12-32 + P35-100 f4-5.6

Discussion in 'This or That? (MFT only)' started by RVJ, Sep 24, 2015.

  1. P14-140mm f3.5-5.6

    30.0%
  2. P12-32 + P35-100 f4-5.6

    70.0%
  3. Sell them all and keep the primes + buy the P25 f1.4

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. RVJ

    RVJ Mu-43 Regular

    84
    Aug 19, 2015
    Saint Louis, MO
    I love the compactness of the 12-32 and the size of the 35-100. I have recently acquired a PL15 and P42.5 f 1.7. I am loving the PL15 already and think it will stay on my GM5 most of the time. So the question is will the P14-140mm f3.5-5.6 be a good replacement for the P12-32 and the P35-100 f4-5.6 that I have? This will help clear out some space in my camera bag.

    Most of my photography at this point is street shooting plus pictures of my 16 month old

    PS: These are not the constant 2.8 aperture lenses.
     
    Last edited: Sep 25, 2015
  2. D MATIC

    D MATIC Mu-43 Regular

    144
    Jul 18, 2012
    It really depends how compact you wanna keep it and your shooting style/preference. The P14-140 is a large lens. Being you have the GM5 I would keep all the "GM" sized lenses. You don't have to bring all your lenses with you all the time in your bag. For example if your going out for a quick walk you could pair the PL15 with the P35-100 as a nice 2 lens set up. I'd keep the P12-35 for the 12mm wide end.

    With that said, I also shoot a GM5 and I have the PL25 and the O75. I dont mind the larger size in certain situations. I find there is room to have both the GM sized lenses and the larger ones too.
     
    • Agree Agree x 3
  3. Klorenzo

    Klorenzo Mu-43 All-Pro

    Mar 10, 2014
    Lorenzo
    The 12-32 + 35-100 together weight less then the 14-140 and are even smaller when put one over another (length and diameter). And you loose the 12mm end. For me the 14-150 is only about not swapping lenses but with lenses this small it should be easy to do, you can keep them in your pockets, swap with one hand only, etc.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  4. wjiang

    wjiang Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    I dislike using my 45-175 on my GM5. I think the 14-150 would be even worse, especially once you trombone it out.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  5. davidzvi

    davidzvi Mu-43 All-Pro

    Aug 12, 2012
    Outside Boston MA
    David
    I've never used the 14-140 II, but I know the 12-32 and 35-100 are fast focusing little lenses that work great on the GM5. I also agree I wouldn't give up that extra 2mm in the wide end, it may not seem like much, but I'll take that 2mm over the 32-42mm on the long end of a kit zoom any day. Cropping is easy, adding width is not. I would keep what you have and maybe add the 25 f/1.7 when it's available.

    Also, the 100-140 may seem like a big difference, but it might not be as much as you might think. Set the GM5 up for 2x digital converter and go between 50 and 70mm with your 35-100. If extra reach is what you're after then I would look at the 45-175. I also used it on my GM5 and I agree it's a little long. But since it doesn't trombone and you can power zoom with the touch screen I think it's a better option.

     
    • Like Like x 1
  6. Youngjun

    Youngjun Mu-43 Regular

    156
    Feb 24, 2015
    USA
    Youngjun
    for street photography, i think the versatility of 14-140 is a big plus.
    you are not going to be swapping lens around in the street, right?
     
    • Like Like x 1
  7. oldracer

    oldracer Mu-43 All-Pro

    Oct 1, 2010
    USA
    Thank you for this. So many posts here are of the "What is the best ... " variety without specifying how the tool is to be used.

    I think your tradeoff is between lens changing and on-camera compactness. Most of my photography is tourist stuff, and my standard kit is the 14-140MM II and the 9-18. In travel photography there is rarely time to change lenses in order to get the shot. A 14-140mm Mk. I replaced my original 14-45 and 45-200 and I have never regretted it.

    For shooting kids, you have plenty of time to mount the lens you want, so there is not much argument for a super zoom.

    For street, it depends a lot on what you like to shoot. There is software that will go through your EXIF data and give you a graph of what focal lengths you use most often. That might be illuminating. If there is lots of stuff at 12mm, maybe you will will not like being limited to 14mm. If lots at 100mm, maybe you will benefit from getting to 140mm. Regardless, I agree with Youngjun's speculation that you will not be doing a lot of lens changing. Only you can say.

    I am a believer in the 14-140mm II. To paraphrase Charlton Heston: "You will only get my 14-140mm by prying it out of my cold, dead hands." Or until the 12-200mm comes! :)
     
    • Like Like x 1
  8. RVJ

    RVJ Mu-43 Regular

    84
    Aug 19, 2015
    Saint Louis, MO
    Thanks for all the input.

    Here are the size, weight values (w/o lens caps or hood)
    12-32 = 24mm, 70g
    35-100f4-5.6 = 50mm, 135g

    14-140 II = 75mm, 265g

    The 14-140 II is about the same size as the 35-100 and weighs 60g more than the pair above.

    Would you happen to know the names? I haven't really gotten into RAW and post processing and have been happy with my jpeg's. I may take a look now that I'm getting more comfortable shooting with m43 bodies.
     
  9. D MATIC

    D MATIC Mu-43 Regular

    144
    Jul 18, 2012
  10. RVJ

    RVJ Mu-43 Regular

    84
    Aug 19, 2015
    Saint Louis, MO
    Sorry, meant to say that the 14-140 II is about the same size as the 12-32 and 35-100 combined, purely from a size perspective while fitting in a bag.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  11. oldracer

    oldracer Mu-43 All-Pro

    Oct 1, 2010
    USA
  12. RVJ

    RVJ Mu-43 Regular

    84
    Aug 19, 2015
    Saint Louis, MO
  13. GnedTheGnome

    GnedTheGnome Mu-43 Regular

    In the 1st image you're looking
    at the mkI. The mkII is considerably smaller. It's about the same diameter as a 12oz can of coke, and 3/4" shorter.
     
  14. oldracer

    oldracer Mu-43 All-Pro

    Oct 1, 2010
    USA
    Good catch! Yes, the Mk. I has the focal lengths shown between the focus ring and the zoom ring. The Mk. II has them on the body side of the zoom ring.

    I sold my Mk. I in favor of a Mk. II because of the significant weight saving primarily but found the size reduction to be a real treat. It really doesn't handle like a "big" lens.
     
  15. D MATIC

    D MATIC Mu-43 Regular

    144
    Jul 18, 2012
    I know the 1st image is the MK1. I even marked it "MK1". If you look at the 2nd pic you'll understand why I showed the MKII next to the 12-35 2.8 because they are roughly the same size.

    Now go back to the first pic and you will see the 12-35 2.8 is still a lot bigger then the 35-100 f4-5.6.

    The reason I had to do it this way is because camersizecom doesn't have the MKII in their database
     
  16. kingduct

    kingduct Mu-43 Veteran

    296
    Oct 12, 2013
    To me, it seems like the 14-140mm lens makes sense if you'll be keeping it on the camera a lot, instead of your prime lenses.

    That's not for me. I've got the 45-150mm zoom, which I carry with me when I think I need something longer than my Sigma 60mm. It's a nice lens, but I don't need that length most of the time, so I usually just walk around with the 60mm and the Panasonic 20mm, with my newly acquired 12-32mm zoom available just in case those two primes don't get me the length I want.
     
  17. RVJ

    RVJ Mu-43 Regular

    84
    Aug 19, 2015
    Saint Louis, MO
    The primes will do nicely for street shooting most of the time. I am looking at lens options for when we take our daughter to the park or zoo etc.
     
  18. Clint

    Clint Mu-43 All-Pro

    Apr 22, 2013
    San Diego area, CA
    Clint
    You have one very pocketable lens with the 12-32mm, a very small 35-100mm, that combined together are nearly the same size as the replacement lens, so the replacement lens won't really clear out any space in your camera bag and it adds 60 grams of weight.

    It looks as if you have bought small and light up till this consideration. Which is more important, ease in carry and the ability to pocket one lens if needed or the reach and simplicity of not having to change lenses with the replacement lens?
     
  19. wjiang

    wjiang Mu-43 Hall of Famer

  20. tkbslc

    tkbslc Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    But that means you always have to have both on the camera, so to speak.