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P100-300 or O75-300-II

Discussion in 'Native Lenses' started by Talanis, Mar 23, 2013.

  1. Talanis

    Talanis Mu-43 Top Veteran

    509
    Oct 15, 2012
    Sherbrooke, Canada
    Eric Cote
    Now that the new 75-300 is out, anyone tried both lenses? Any thoughts? Is there one superior to the other in term of IQ and/or AF? I'm interested in buying a super telephoto zoom to do some bird pictures and I would like to know if one of those is as good as the Canon 100-400L (or close to).
     
  2. shizlefonizle

    shizlefonizle Mu-43 Veteran

    372
    Apr 21, 2012
    I believe the lens elements are identical to the 1st. Its a simple redesign and lowering of price to make it more competitive with the P100-300mm.

    I own the P100-300mm and its a great lens for the price, but definitely not up to the Canon 100-400L which is $1500.
     
  3. Biro

    Biro Mu-43 All-Pro

    May 8, 2011
    Jersey Shore
    Steve
    Eric, what camera body are you going to use the long lens on? The Panasonic 100-300 works fine on both Panasonic and Olympus bodies but if you have an otherwise all-Olympus kit, perhaps the compatability of the Oly 75-300 might be a bit better when pushing to the limit. Or vice versa. I've found this to be true in a number of cases: You certainly can use any micro four-thirds lens on any micro four-thirds body. But occasionally certain compatability issues pop up under extreme applications. Little things, like auto-focus speed, potential banding at high ISOs, etc.
     
  4. SpecFoto

    SpecFoto Mu-43 Veteran

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    Aug 28, 2012
    So Cal
    Jim
    I have a OMD and was debating between these two lenses also. I was leaning towards the Panasonic because of the aperture being f/4 to 5.6 max. I felt the 1/2 to 2/3 stop difference vs. the slower Olympus would result in more shots, especially early mornings and late afternoons. Like Biro mentioned above, I have had a few issues with some Panasonic lenses on my OMD. But I ordered the Panasonic 100-300mm anyway this week, and it arrived Thursday evening.

    Yesterday I visited a local wetlands to see what the lens could do. 190 handheld photos later and I feel I made the right choice, the lens is sharp, easy to handle and overall I am extremely impressed. The autofocus was very fast and there was no hunting at all. The lens is a definite keeper for me. I have the Nikon 70-300VR lens and it is as sharp as that lens. Also have a D800 and 300 f/4 AFS, and the thing with that combo, which is extremely sharp, is that it would have been most difficult to get the shots below without a tripod, or at least a monopod. Especially if I added my TC1.7e teleconverter, which would take the 300mm f/4 to 510mm f/6.8 equivalent.

    The photos below are handheld with IBIS on. First group is 1/500 second, 2nd group 1/800 second shutter speed. These are straight from the camera Oly Jpegs, I only imported them into PS to reduce the size. There is some sharpening in the jpeg process, I have it set to low.


    First, at 100mm
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    At 243mm
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    At 300mm
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    At 100mm
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    At 246mm
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    246mm-100% crop
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    This one at 223mm
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    And one more of a different type of "bird". 269mm at about 70 meters.
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  5. Gary Ramey

    Gary Ramey Mu-43 Veteran

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    Dec 27, 2012
    Aurora Colorado
    I'm also deciding between the same 2 and this and another thread are pointing me toward Panasonic
     
  6. Talanis

    Talanis Mu-43 Top Veteran

    509
    Oct 15, 2012
    Sherbrooke, Canada
    Eric Cote
    Thank you for the answers. Anyone compared the AF on both lenses? how is the AF on the P100-300?
     
  7. Ross the fiddler

    Ross the fiddler Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    There is one thing that should also be considered. The Panasonic cannot do 9 fps on the OM-D because of its slower aperture response (although some Oly lenses slow down as the aperture is closed down). I am waiting for my Oly 75-300 lens to arrive as it is now cheaper than the Panasonic. I have heard from some that the Oly might be a 'tad' sharper at 300mm. We shall see. The other thing that is a little more useful to me is to be able to go that little bit wider angle (75mm) on the Oly too.
     
  8. SkiHound

    SkiHound Mu-43 Veteran

    328
    Jan 28, 2012
    This is coming from someone who doesn't have either lens but will likely add one or the other at some point in the future. If you ever contemplate adding a Panny body the Panny lens has OIS while the Oly doesn't. I've been waiting to hear what kind of higher grade normal lens Oly might release. But as I've thought about it it will need to have some real advantages over the 12-35. Better IQ at a lower price or longer at the long end (I love the 12-60) would get to buy Oly. But I can see myself getting a Panny body at some point and in lens OIS maximizes future flexibility.
     
  9. newbert

    newbert Mu-43 Veteran

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    Jul 22, 2012
    Glens Falls, NY
    FWIW, that's not the case here in the US. For example, B&H's latest pricing is:

    Panasonic 100-300: $499
    Olympus 75-300: $549 (available for pre-order).
     
  10. aukirk

    aukirk Mu-43 Regular

    183
    Sep 9, 2012
    Off-Topic: Eric, just wanted to say that I checked out your blog from the link in your signature, and I really enjoyed your post about the OMD after 4 months (thank you for having that translate button). You really have some really beautiful shots posted. Thanks for sharing.

    I am looking forward to seeing whether you get the 100-300 or 75-300, as I am sure seeing what you can get out of the lens will make me pull the trigger on one of these two.
     
  11. Talanis

    Talanis Mu-43 Top Veteran

    509
    Oct 15, 2012
    Sherbrooke, Canada
    Eric Cote
    Thank you very much :)
     
  12. Ross the fiddler

    Ross the fiddler Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    I'm buying my 75-300 from a Sydney based shop & online (CamBuy) being sold for $539 that's 10% off the RRP of $599 (includes 10% GST) while their price for the Pansonic 100-300 is $699. Other businesses are selling it (Pana) around $500, but I'm sure they are only grey importers.
     
  13. macalterego

    macalterego Mu-43 Veteran

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    Jul 10, 2012
    Lawrence, KS
    Jeffrey McPheeters
    Me, too! Still thinking about this, but will likely do something in the next 120 days, and am leaning toward the Oly since I use an E-M5 and don't plan on getting a non-IBIS body anytime soon. Plus, 75mm vs 100mm widest view is significant to me.
     
  14. jgmankos

    jgmankos Mu-43 Regular

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    Apr 9, 2012
    Slatington, PA
    John
    I dont know...I found differently. I always found the 100-400L a bit disappointing when I used to shoot Canon, and felt the Panny was a sharper lens.

    Sent from my GT-N8013 using Tapatalk 2
     
  15. aldus

    aldus Mu-43 Regular

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    Dec 24, 2012
    Fairbanks, Alaska
    Dennis Moser
    Having basically no access to Panny gear here in Fairbanks, I was able to do a quick, in-store test of the 75-300 yesterday on my recently acquired E-P3. What I can say is that I was quite surprised at the speed of focus and acquisition.

    I'll try and compare it on my Panny GX-1, but not having access to a 100-300, I'm not sure what more can be said.

    I can say that comparing between the Oly 75-300, the Panny 45-200, and Oly 40-150, I think the 40-150 may be going away ...:)
     
  16. Ross the fiddler

    Ross the fiddler Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    I've found out mine (Oly 75-300) will be arriving on Wednesday, so I'll know how good it is when it comes.

    :drinks:
     
  17. pusser

    pusser New to Mu-43

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    Dec 11, 2012
    Canberra Australia
    Syd Lemon
    I have neither but pondering which was best. I note that the Oly comes without case and hood while the Pany comes with both. Given the price Olympus charges for hoods and there seeming lack of cases this makes the Pany even more cost attractive. I can understand no cases but no lense hoods?
     
  18. quatchi

    quatchi Mu-43 Veteran

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    May 17, 2012
    Munich, Germany
    For those who are inconclusive: In case, the "wider aperture" of the Pana is holding you back from buying the Oly one, you might be interested in this: Oly 75-300 first (non scientific) test

    I made a comparison between the Pana 45-200 and Oly 75-300 (version I). It turned out that having set the same ISO and exposure time, the Oly lens could be shot with a more closed aperture. This means that the Oly lens does not "absorbe" as much light in its lens design than the Pana. I do not have a Pana 100-300 to test against. Some of the reviews out there, however, hint that it is the same.
     
  19. jnewell

    jnewell Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jun 23, 2011
    Boston, MA
    As far as IQ goes, it's a toss-up. You probably have more risk due to sample variation than due to the intrinsic design differences. The OIS and the faster maximum aperture of the Panasonic made it a no-brainer from my perspective and the results have been extremely satisfactory.
     
  20. Talanis

    Talanis Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Oct 15, 2012
    Sherbrooke, Canada
    Eric Cote
    Too bad nobody is keeping micro 4/3 gear in my city. I would have loved to try both lenses. Anyway, I will wait a couple of months to see what all those panasonic and Olympus announcements will be in april and may.