DISCLAIMER: Although this was set off by a particular ad, this is really years of frustration as a pretty active buyer/seller here, on FM, and ebay. Not calling out anybody in particular, just getting some stuff off of my chest.... Part of this is based off of this listing. I made an initial mistake saying "like new". Not because, to any reasonable human being, it isn't like new, but because to a certain segment of people (who will be addressed below), it isn't "retail new". If you've ever worked in retail, "open box", "display", "customer return", and "refurbished" items are often sold "like new". This means that there are no obvious defects, scratches, or missing parts. These are sold at a discount, because it isn't new. This doesn't mean that the product was opened by an ethereal spirit and then never touched human hands. If you are looking to get something in "new" condition, may I please advise you to go pay the new price from a retailer? Oh? You don't want to pay the new price? Well then, why don't you try being the slightest bit realistic. You are cheap, that is fine; I am too! But guess what? Cheap and "picky" are mutually exclusive traits in a shopper. When these two cross each other, you turn into a raging $@#! who should jump in front of a truck. All that being said: Could we please, as a community, try and remember that you are buying used equipment off a photo board from private sellers, and that inspecting every nook and cranny of an item like you are a Christie's auctioneer is d-bag behavior. PS if you're paying with PayPal (not gift) and dealing with an established seller, could you please have the decency to give them event he slightest benefit of the doubt? There is realistically no risk to you if you follow the most basic principles of online transactions.