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OM-D... just used the flash for the first time... WTF?!

Discussion in 'Olympus Cameras' started by majordude, Sep 2, 2014.

  1. majordude

    majordude Mu-43 Regular

    108
    Dec 28, 2012
    Okay, I've owned my OM-D for 15 months or so but today I actually used the flash for the first time.

    ALL of the photos are UNDER exposed!

    WTF? It's like the sensor doesn't speak to the flash unit. Or something. VERY disappointed to the point I'm wondering what is wrong with Olympus and my camera.
     
  2. Sammyboy

    Sammyboy m43 Pro

    Oct 26, 2010
    Steeler Country
    .... did you set up the flash in the SCP ? ......
     
  3. kevinparis

    kevinparis Cantankerous Scotsman

    Feb 12, 2010
    Gent, Belgium
    highly unlikely anything wrong with camera or flash

    just take a deep breath and explain

    1) which flash - the included little thing or something else

    2) are you sure it was flashing

    3) what mode were you in - P, A, S or M ?

    Olympus flash system is pretty damned good so either you have made some wrong setting or maybe your clip on flash has an issue

    K
     
  4. Mikefellh

    Mikefellh Mu-43 Top Veteran

    939
    Jun 7, 2012
    Toronto, Canada
    Which flash are you using, how far away, what settings? The camera will only do what you tell it.
     
  5. Growltiger

    Growltiger Mu-43 Top Veteran

    649
    Mar 26, 2014
    UK
    Do this simple test.
    1. Set the camera to P.
    2. Pull up the little flash to turn it on. If you don't lift it up it won't flash.
    3. Aim the camera at yourself and take a selfie photo. (This will ensure that you see the flash go off, and that your head is near the camera so the exposure should be good even with the little flash.)

    Did that work?
     
  6. Ross the fiddler

    Ross the fiddler Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Probably did & now he can't see to type. :biggrin:
     
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  7. Sammyboy

    Sammyboy m43 Pro

    Oct 26, 2010
    Steeler Country
    .... must go into the SCP and set the flash to TTL, not as a commander ......
     
  8. imahawki

    imahawki Mu-43 Regular

    195
    Aug 12, 2014
    I'm wondering if it wasn't in the down position and not firing but we may never know.
     
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  9. Ulfric M Douglas

    Ulfric M Douglas Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 6, 2010
    Northumberland
    If the OP could summon enough fingers to let us know what flash and ... even ... what camera ... things could become helpful.
     
  10. WT21

    WT21 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Feb 19, 2010
    Boston
    Not sure if the OP will be back, but another common issue I see with any basic camera users is using built-in flash from far, far away, and not understanding why their pics without flash, look better than pics with flash.

    Examples are always the best, to demonstrate the issue.
     
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  11. Gary Ramey

    Gary Ramey Mu-43 Veteran

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    Dec 27, 2012
    Aurora Colorado
    Yes...did that one myself...lol.
     
  12. majordude

    majordude Mu-43 Regular

    108
    Dec 28, 2012
    Hey guys! Been on vacation! I'll run a test and let you know what I did.
     
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  13. klee

    klee Mu-43 Veteran

    367
    Mar 20, 2013
    Houston, TX
    Kevin
    olympus TTL is known to underexpose by 0.7 EV or so. TTL Metering seems to always be full scene evaluative, overriding the metering choice you've selected. That means if there's a bright white object in the scene, many times it will meter to that object leaving everything else quite dark.

    if you search the forum, you'll find a lot of discussions about this, and the final concensus is to fix your Flash Exposure Comp permanently to +0.7EV or +1.0EV.

    using a reflective card to bounce the flash up also helps:
    photo_1_.JPG
    no flash:
    P9211928.JPG
    with flash + bounce card:
    P9211929.JPG
     
  14. majordude

    majordude Mu-43 Regular

    108
    Dec 28, 2012
    Okay, I don't know why but this is what I discovered...

    It looks like it overexposes on full (maybe the business card trick post above is the solution)... bed, 3-6' away. I didn't download the images to my computer to verify. It just looked too bright on the back screen.

    BUT, my original reaction was to photos taken in the iAUTO mode. They are uber underexposed.
     
  15. Growltiger

    Growltiger Mu-43 Top Veteran

    649
    Mar 26, 2014
    UK
    But are you sure it actually flashed when you took those photos. It is easy to nudge the top down slightly.
     
  16. WT21

    WT21 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Feb 19, 2010
    Boston
    please post examples with EXIF. No one can help you without examples and EXIF data.