You know exactly what I'm talking about, without any cherry picking on either side.
No I don't. You keep changing it up. I point out why your claims don't work and you try to change it up again. Such as...
An f/1.9 80mm Hasselblad (digital) weighs lots more than my Olympus f/1.8 25
First, I thought the goal posts got moved out to the parking lot for the 4x5 inch format. Now we are back to 1.7" x 1.3"? You really need to pick something and stick to it, ya know?
Second, why are you comparing an 80mm lens to a 25mm lens? The point of this particular part of the discussion was the comparison lenses of the SAME focal length and f-stop being around the same size regardless of format, no?
Third, try the Oly 75/1.8 a much closer comparison. 130 x 173mm on the Oly vs David Hasselhoff's 84 x 112 mm. I have no idea why the obviously smaller "Hoff" is so much heavier (1044 g vs. 305 g for the Oly) but it is most likely because some of the innards of the Hoff are likely solid gold to justify the high prices they charge.