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Olympus making their own PL 100-400 competitor?

Discussion in 'Micro 4/3 News and Rumors' started by ijm5012, Jul 9, 2018.

  1. ijm5012

    ijm5012 Mu-43 Legend Subscribing Member

    Oct 2, 2013
    Pittsburgh, PA
    The rumor site is saying that Olympus may (FT2) be making a 150-400 PRO telephoto zoom.

    No specs are known at this time, but it makes sense. given the gap in Olympus' focal lengths in the telephoto range. The PL 100-400 appears to be a hit, and it makes sense that Olympus wants a piece of that pie (the 40-150 + TC still only has half the reach of the PL zoom, and the 300/4 PRO, while an excellent piece of glass, and be a bit constraining due to it being a prime).

    I'm a bit surprised that it starts at 150mm and not 100mm (to pair with the 12-100 PRO). There's no way that it'll be an f/2.8 to pick up where the 40-150 leaves off. Up to this point, Olympus has not made a variable-aperture PRO lens. Will this one be variable aperture? An f/2.8-4 would still make it a monster. Maybe f/4-5.6? Do they make it a constant f/4 (and if so, how does that affect sales of the 300/4 PRO)?

    Keep in mind that this is only an FT2 from a new source, so there's no telling whether this is true or not, but given the success of the PL 100-400, I would not be surprised if it were indeed a lens being developed. I think the big question is what will the speed of the lens be?

    I can't see it being a constant f4 (just look at how big CaNikon's 180/200-400 f/4 lenses are). My guess is that it'll be an f/4-5.6 with PRO-like optical quality. That aperture range will help keep the size of the lens down, and also help protect some 300/4 PRO lens sales (for those that need the extra ~2/3-1 stop at that focal length.
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  2. Aristophanes

    Aristophanes Mu-43 Top Veteran

    They need both, a 100-300 LensIS to complement the 12-100 and a 150-xxx to take over from the 40-150.

    Neither “pro” zoom lens branch is complete, even with the TC. It’s as good as it gets from 7mm to 150mm, but if you opt for the 12-100 you are really hooped for a tele-zoom option, particularly if you want to maintain dualIS, the killer feature of the 12-100.

    I have the 12-40/2.8 and it is wonderful, but I prefer primes for those FLs at faster apertures, and would immediately jump ship to the 12-100 if it had a complementary Olympus brand zoom. Right now it is a bit of an orphan. Even a lens roadmap with continuity might tempt me.

    Apertures? Anyone’s guess, but I think it safe for cost and weight they would be variable.
  3. KeithT

    KeithT Mu-43 Regular

    Jan 17, 2017
    South Africa
    Keith Temlett
    @ijm5012@ijm5012 - interesting rumour and could be a fantastic lens . . . agree with you on making it 100-400mm Pro to go with the 12-100mm Pro.

    Was actually thinking the weekend... on 4/3 lenses Oly made some really good ones, viz.
    12-60mm, 35-100mm and the 50-200mm which are now all made by Panasonic for m43.

    Was just wondering why Oly didn't capitalise on some of their best loved lenses. :confused-53:
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  4. tkbslc

    tkbslc Super Moderator

    150 starting point makes it so specialized that it might as well be the 300mm f4. IMHO, of course.
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  5. ijm5012

    ijm5012 Mu-43 Legend Subscribing Member

    Oct 2, 2013
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Yes, it is specialized for those that need reach (birding, sports, wildlife, motorsports, etc.)

    If it's more reach than one needs, why not look at the 40-150 PRO? It'll be smaller, lighter, and cheaper than this new telephoto.
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  6. tkbslc

    tkbslc Super Moderator

    It's not the max reach I complained about, it's the minimum.
  7. ijm5012

    ijm5012 Mu-43 Legend Subscribing Member

    Oct 2, 2013
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Yes, I know, which is why I said a lens like the 40-150, or PL 50-200 may be a better option. What were you hoping for, a 40-400?

    For those that need the reach (categories mentioned above), starting a 150mm isn't a big deal.
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  8. inthecage

    inthecage Mu-43 Veteran

    Jun 4, 2010
    Sagamore Hills, Ohio
    M Ferencz
    I'm not the first to say this, but the Pany 100-400 has a lot more uses than you might think. That length can really blur the backround up close on flowers and butterflies. 100 is a great focal length as well. Big and heavy for it, but the ability to zoom out to 400 is really nice. Olympus needs to respond. Something similar. Don't reinvent the wheel, give us length and give us compact size.
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  9. Aristophanes

    Aristophanes Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Zooms and their,optical flexibility are THE way dedicated optical cameras can compete with and blow away smartphones.

    A 150-400mm would be ideal after the 40-150, especially when the TC is added.

    For a 2 lens kits, the 12-100 could be complemented by a 100-250, the latter also TC capable.

    Yes, this would require a move to variable apertures, but these types of zooms are a strength for m43, especially on compactness and weight compared to Nikon, Canon, Sony, and Fuji.
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  10. x_holger

    x_holger Mu-43 Regular

    Aug 14, 2012
    Berlin, Germany
    I am really looking forward to an alternative to the "Leica" branded Panasonic 100-400
    In my opinion the PL 100-400/4-6.3 is a flawed lens. F6.3 at the long end is already suffering from diffraction, it's too slow to be very good.
    The PL 100-400 is also mechanically flawed: stiff zoom ring, stupid lock/unlock mechanism that's prone to defects, awful tripod mount implementation that is basically a tiny tripod plate with a tripod screw thread secured with three feeble screws cut in aluminium. Prone to failure (already reported on depreview ...). No reasonable repair service for the PL 100-400 ... that's really enough to hope for a better alternative made by Olympus!
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  11. retiredfromlife

    retiredfromlife Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    May 15, 2016
    Sydney, Australia
    If the rumor is correct the 150mm starting point would be disapointing but not a show stopper if it was a faster lens than the 100-400 from Panasonic.
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  12. tkbslc

    tkbslc Super Moderator

    I'm sorry for offending your pretend lens. I take it back. Please forgive me.
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  13. davidzvi

    davidzvi Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Aug 12, 2012
    Outside Boston MA
    REALLY hope it's more like a 90-250 f/4 and compatible with the 1.4 TC.
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  14. m43happy

    m43happy Mu-43 Top Veteran Subscribing Member

    Feb 18, 2012
    Where's the m43 version of the 90-250mm f2.8? :eek:  lol
  15. Jeffcs

    Jeffcs Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Jan 20, 2017
    Toms River NJ
    Jeffrey Swank
    Love reading the rumors mill thank you all for the entertainment. That said please don’t be offended, I did enjoy your remarks.
    I’ll throw my 2cents I agree Olympus does need a longer zoom pro quality build in ether a 150-400 or 100-400 I’m for one would rather Olympus takes time and gets this one right as they have done with all of the great glass on the market today!
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  16. Carbonman

    Carbonman Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Jul 10, 2014
    Vancouver BC
    There's no reason Olympus can't make a 100-400 zoom and directly compete with PanaLeica, especially with the service issue on the Panasonic side.
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  17. Gillymaru

    Gillymaru Mu-43 Top Veteran

    If it has better optics than the Panasonic I’m sold.
  18. PakkyT

    PakkyT Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Jun 20, 2015
    New England
    That lens already exists, it is the 40-150 PRO assuming you both meant the view of view given by traditional lenses on that size on 35mm cameras.

    How about just a 150-300mm lens (so you only need to design 2x optical) making it variable aperture so at the 300mm end it is not fast enough to compete directly with the 300 PRO? Fills that gap nicely while keeping the 300 PRO unique.
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  19. Reflector

    Reflector Mu-43 All-Pro

    Aug 31, 2013
    I'd like to see a 450mm f/5.6 on the long end*, but we'll see. I know I like having 420mm at f/5.6 reach with an adapted Sigma 120-300 f/2.8 with a TC...

    *It wouldn't be very big either, the front element on that only needs to be 80mm+...
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  20. Aristophanes

    Aristophanes Mu-43 Top Veteran

    150-300mm 2x + TC x1.4 would be very handy and relatively compact if f/3.5-4.5
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