Olympus Demo Day- what would you like me to test?

Discussion in 'Olympus Cameras' started by ftwphoto, Mar 30, 2012.

  1. ftwphoto

    ftwphoto Mu-43 Regular

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    Dec 12, 2011
    Hey guys,

    So in a few hours (3) I will be going to my local camera store for a hands on demo of the em-5. So my question is: is there anything you'd like me to test or try out and report back on? I know it's been fairly well reviewed at this point but maybe there are specifics that haven't been covered that you'd like to know about. So just let me know here and I'll do my best to test everything I can.

    Cheers!
     
  2. dixeyk

    dixeyk Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 9, 2010
    Your resolve? :biggrin:

    Okay now that I got that out of the way...I'm curious about AF speed and how well the IBIS works.
     
  3. D@ne

    D@ne Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    I'm curious if they'll let people attach their own lenses. Thus far we've really only read reports about the 12-50 (and I think the latest Chinese review showed the 12).
     
  4. duke

    duke Mu-43 Veteran

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    Duke
    If you have the PL25 I'd be interested in hearing if it rattles on the OMD.
     
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  5. WT21

    WT21 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Feb 19, 2010
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    There's only two things I need from the OMD to be my perfect camera -- cheaper price, and CAF with zooms. I am assuming I'll get neither, but if you could test CAF with zooms that would be great.
     
  6. ftwphoto

    ftwphoto Mu-43 Regular

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    I'll be bringing my lenses and memory cards to test with it. I used to work at the store they're doing the demo day at, so I'll likely have a little more leeway to try things then the average consumer. But we'll see, I'll do my best to test my own lenses if possible (although presently I only have my 12mm and 45mm as my 20mm is in for repairs.)
     
  7. M4/3

    M4/3 Mu-43 Top Veteran

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  8. Muntjack

    Muntjack Mu-43 Veteran

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    I'd like to also know how responsive it is with/without IBIS on. I've only just realised how much the IBIS on my E-P2 slows things down. This is a real pain trying to catch kids at play.
    Good luck - very jealous.
    M
     
  9. letsgocoyote

    letsgocoyote Mu-43 Regular

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    I'd like to know what ISO settings are available in video mode, and video manual controls in general. My E-PM1 can only do 400-1600 in video. use of 200 would be a huge plus, as would 3200+
     
  10. blaffendespin

    blaffendespin Mu-43 Regular

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    I second this one
     
  11. LovinTheEP2

    LovinTheEP2 Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Man I wish would see some direct comparisons like that using the 45mm or some other lens.

    I think the 12-50mm is probably hold the me IQ of the OMD.
     
  12. DIS Ottawa

    DIS Ottawa Guest

    I went to the Henry's in Ottawa this afternoon to try out the OM-D. Before you ask, I only tested the things I was interested in. I did not try every lens and did no comparisons.

    According to the Olympus rep the two cameras they had there were the only two in Canada at the moment and they had just discovered that someone had forgotten to charge one of the batteries so they had one working battery for two cameras. So, that complicated testing a bit.

    I can tell you that the OM-D has the rattlesnake sound with the PL 25mm, just like my E-P3 does. The video with the IBIS on is much, much better than the E-P3. Higher ISO shots do look better and the camera is much nicer to handle. Fits better in the hand. Also, the two wheels on the top plate allow you to switch aperture and exposure compensation much more easily than the E-P3. At least in A mode. Didn't try any other modes.

    I tried it with and without the grip and with the grip without the battery holder. The grip and battery holder adds considerable size and weight to the camera. I felt it detracted from what attracted me to m4/3 in the first place. However, the grip without the battery holder could be viable; too bad you have to buy both.

    The Olympus rep told me (for what it's worth) that Olympus has a line of weather sealed primes in development. No firm timeline mentioned. He said the cameras would be in stores in the second week in April. In Canada anyway. He also mentioned that there is 100% rebate on the small Olympus flash and a couple of adapters.

    Overall I was very impressed with the camera and left my name on the list to get one. Seems I'm first on the list, so should have it fairly soon.
     
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  13. D@ne

    D@ne Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    ^ thanks so much for the info! You answered a few of my questions.
     
  14. M4/3

    M4/3 Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    I made a big mistake claiming the above two examples show the E-M5's jpegs cannot resolve details as well as the Pen cameras such as the E-P3. They actually show that on the right hand side of the images, the E-M5 looks sharper and more detailed whereas on the left hand side the E-P3 looks a little clearer. Why that happened, I do not know, but I think we can now rest assured that the E-M5 can take low ISO jpegs that are just as detailed (or better) than any Pen camera and that obviously the E-M5 beats any Pen at high ISO's.
     
  15. foto2021

    foto2021 Mu-43 Veteran

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    That's funny, I'm going too! But probably to a different store, as we seem to be in different time zones. I'm in England.
     
  16. MexicoMik

    MexicoMik Mu-43 Regular

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    Mar 19, 2012
    "They actually show that on the right hand side of the images, the E-M5 looks sharper and more detailed whereas on the left hand side the E-P3 looks a little clearer. "

    Since the images were Jpegs, I would assume that the in-camera or subsequent computer processing could have been different and therefore produced differences irrespective of the different sensors?

    IOW, wouldn't a raw image be better for sensor evaluation so as to eliminate any camera/computer processing/individual setting differences? I would have expected some noticeable difference in the two sensors but I don't actually see anything based on those two images that would make me select either camera over the other.
     
  17. wetterberg

    wetterberg Mu-43 Rookie

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    I saw a test yesterday where they tested the burst rate on the om-d, WITH IBIS and with raw+jpeg - I believe they did 10fps, even better than the 9 they advertise?
     
  18. ftwphoto

    ftwphoto Mu-43 Regular

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    I found AF speed to be quite quick. Faster than my EPM1, but I don't have an EP3 to test against. However it was definitely faster than the D300 I shoot with professionally, so it checked that mark on my list. The IBIS works great, I was able to get sharp shots at 1/60th of second at a 400mm equivalent MM.

    Unfortunately I don't own a PL25 and the store didn't have one in stock, so I couldn't test this.

    I tired the AF Tracking outdoors with a zoom lens (OLY 70-300) and to be honest, the Tracking didn't work super well, but it was a busy street with close up objects constantly crossing in front of the camera and confusing it. I did however try continuous autofocus with a car coming towards me, and found that this worked quite well. Each shot was sharp (although they appeared blurry in the viewfinder) and I was shooting at 3.5fps.

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    I'm personally more interested in low light shooting, as it's what I do most of, so I've included these shots for you to judge at ISO 200, since I'm probably a bad judge of how good low ISO is supposed to look. They were taken with the OLY 12mm at f/5.6 and 1/640th

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    I found the camera to be quite quick with the IBIS, as fast as I would expect any camera to operate, with or without IBIS. Turning off the IBIS didn't seem to have any effect on the speed, so from that standpoint, my answer is blazing fast.

    I'm a big video guy myself, and I shot some video and made sure it had manual control (which it does) however I completely forgot to check the ISO range as I was only focused on shooting to expose for what I need. My bad.

    Here is a video that I shot using the IBIS on the OLY 12mm and walking around the store with AFC on. (The compression on Flickr is terrible, so really just judge the IBIS and AF off that click.)


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    Hope that answer's everyones questions, I'm going to follow this up with a personal review of the camera.
     
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  19. LovinTheEP2

    LovinTheEP2 Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    I attended the Toronto show yesterday but arrived a bit late and couldn't stay too long.

    I have to admit, I was quite impressed with the camera couldn't really find any faults. I forgot my memory card at home so no pics .. ooops.

    1. IBIS is amazing. Was shocked how much movement you could make and still get a in focus image.

    2. The OM-D Hummm is definitely there, don't think it will get picked up in movies.

    3. Ergonomics are really good and well balanced with small primes or long teles.

    4. I'm shocked but I have to admit I like the sliding screen. Completely changed my opinion about having such a feature.

    5. Autofocus is really fast. Fast enough now that I don't think they need to improve it on S-AF. Continous AF needs a bit of work.

    6. Movie mode still has jello effect IMO. No issue for me as I don't really record video.

    7. The squishy weatherproof buttons are a NON issue. I wouldn't have noticed if someone hadn't said something.

    8. Silver vs. Black. Black is ultra sleath but the silver looks soooo awesome and retro. I'll probably go with a silver one.

    9. Played with the 45mm and 12mm and have to say.. wow to both. Much smaller, much better finished and nice lenses.

    10. Battery grip. Wasn't a fan but get when it could be useful.

    11. The rep wouldn't stop going on about the kit weathersealed zoom... was told there are 3 kits: weathersealed zoom, one with 14-42 IIR and one body only.

    12. Weathersealed primes in development. Probably announced in late summer/fall.

    The demo was well attended. They had 2 bodies there that were a few months old. The black one had a old firmware and had an issue with the Super Control Panel.

    Curious to see more and more pics from consumers and not reviewers and see how good it is out in the field. I'm definitely leaning towards getting one.

    Funny story, one of the reps was saying how in Ottawa and woman walked in and asked a sales rep where the "Austin Kutcher" camera was and went about spending over 1,000 on a kit!! ... OMG..
     
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