Olympus 8-25 f4 Pro leaked

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I don't think that rattling would be an issue for me as I tend to NOT shake my lenses. At least while shooting. But I guess as a Panasonic man he had to complain about something.
 

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Interesting that this is another person who expected to get a sample to review and only found out late. Robin Wong commented that the release came as a surprise to him https://robinwong.blogspot.com/2021/06/new-video-series-robinspeaks.html. Perhaps OMDS is restricting who it uses to release products?
In his video he sounded quite uphappy, and considering his possition i dont blame him
Very odd indeed, seems like they made a decision not to give him a review copy, but gave review copies to non Olympus people
 

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In his video he sounded quite uphappy, and considering his possition i dont blame him
Very odd indeed, seems like they made a decision not to give him a review copy, but gave review copies to non Olympus people

I'm wondering if the issue was Robin, or the local distributor in Malaysia.

From what Robin said, the disty either lied to him or was deliberately kept in the dark about the release. I'd suspect the latter is more likely given Robin's stature and reputation in the Olympus community. Pretty hard to get Robin a review copy if they are deliberately keeping the local operation in the dark about new releases for other reasons. Note as per Robin, the local Distributor is a subsidiary of YL Camera, a major local retailer, not OMDS or JIP. Robin's status as an Olympus Visionary is via the local organization as well so OMDS isn't really in a position to deal with him directly and cut out the local distributor.

Robin is a pretty reliable source for a good review that is both positive on Olympus and comprehensive, and he has more visibility outside of the Olympus community than many of the other Olympus Visionaries so he'd be an obvious choice to get preview samples.

That said, OMDS seems to be focusing on certain types of photographers as Visionaries. That's why Peter Forsgard left the program, his work doesn't align with the marketing push from OMDS towards more Explorer-oriented work. Of course Peter also got samples from OMDS Suomi, he's just not a Visionary anymore. I suspect that's why Robin didn't get asked to be a Visionary by OMDS directly, his work tends to be in the same sort of areas as Peter's (Note Jimmy Chen also does this sort of work and did maintain his status as a Visionary, but he's more video focused and that is probably the difference that mattered)
 

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I haven’t seen the video so apologies if Robin has already addressed the issue.
But being in Robin’s neck of the woods, Malaysia has been hit pretty severely recently with COVID-19 case outbreaks and their form of social distancing law called the MCO (movement control order) is still in effect, and has been for several months.
I think it may be possible some logistical issues stemming from the MCO may have prevented him from early access?
Dunno, just a thought.
 

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Hey, some of you who pre-ordered this lens might find this as annoying as I did. I pre-ordered this lens on 6/9. Was thrilled to get a shipment notification on 6/15! It reached my hometown, but then it was turned around, back to the sender. FedEx told me that it might get damaged and I would have left at that. However, I reached out to the customer support of the Olympus Store to make sure I'll get a replacement soon if it indeed got damaged in transit. Their response really surprised me:

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Thank you for your email regarding your online store order. I am happy to assist.

A number of 8-25mm have errantly shipped prior to when they were meant to. I can let you know that we are aware of the shipping error and we plan to ship your order by the originally promised time period of mid-July.

I wish you a nice day and please do not hesitate to contact me if you have any further questions.

Kind regards,

Sandra Basten
OM Digital Solutions
Customer Care Specialist
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Seriously? They took our money and decided NOT to ship the product we purchased for another MONTH although they HAVE the product in stock? WHY? Just because they can...
 

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I am pretty sure it is normal to build up stock of a product before the release date, and ensure the retailers also have it in stock by that date so that those who preordered from those retailers can also get their copy at the same time as everyone else.
 

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Hey, some of you who pre-ordered this lens might find this as annoying as I did. I pre-ordered this lens on 6/9. Was thrilled to get a shipment notification on 6/15! It reached my hometown, but then it was turned around, back to the sender. FedEx told me that it might get damaged and I would have left at that. However, I reached out to the customer support of the Olympus Store to make sure I'll get a replacement soon if it indeed got damaged in transit. Their response really surprised me:


Seriously? They took our money and decided NOT to ship the product we purchased for another MONTH although they HAVE the product in stock? WHY? Just because they can...
Hi,
That sounds very strange. In Japan and some other East Asian countries it seems that this lens is available today. I bought the lens on the 11th of June from OM Digital Solutions (Europe) and I was mentally prepared to wait for the 7th of July which was written as delivery date in my order confirmation. But two days ago on Wednesday I got a mail with tracking number from OM Digital that they they have already shipped my order. It comes by UPS from Germany. The lens is now in Denmark and should be in my hands on next Tuesday. S
Some sellers in EU inform that the lens will be available late June and some the early July. I am sure that you will receive yours before mid-July.
 
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Hey, some of you who pre-ordered this lens might find this as annoying as I did. I pre-ordered this lens on 6/9. Was thrilled to get a shipment notification on 6/15! It reached my hometown, but then it was turned around, back to the sender. FedEx told me that it might get damaged and I would have left at that. However, I reached out to the customer support of the Olympus Store to make sure I'll get a replacement soon if it indeed got damaged in transit. Their response really surprised me:

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Thank you for your email regarding your online store order. I am happy to assist.

A number of 8-25mm have errantly shipped prior to when they were meant to. I can let you know that we are aware of the shipping error and we plan to ship your order by the originally promised time period of mid-July.

I wish you a nice day and please do not hesitate to contact me if you have any further questions.

Kind regards,

Sandra Basten
OM Digital Solutions
Customer Care Specialist
//////////////////////

Seriously? They took our money and decided NOT to ship the product we purchased for another MONTH although they HAVE the product in stock? WHY? Just because they can...
Might have to do with warranty coverage.
 
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Here in Canada, Henry's only added 8-25mm F4 to their website a couple days ago, and it is still not available to order on Amazon. So I think we can be more patient. I don't expect Olympus/OM to put the lens into customers' hands before they can even preorder it on Amazon.

I've been experiencing a creative block lately, so maybe it's not the right time to buy more equipment, especially $1400 CAD worth, but with the Canadian dollar so strong, maybe better to get the lens now rather than later. But I've been waiting to see what is the price on Amazon, after seeing them sell the 100-400mm F5-6.3 for $1600 CAD ($600 off from the MSRP) when it was first released.
 

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Here in EU it seems that the first normal buying consumers (not ambassadors, reviewers, press, youtubers etc.) have received their lenses yesterday the 25th of June. I follow regularly also German, Russian and Finnish photography fora and the first happy customers were reporting yesterday that they have received their orders. Mine is still in transit but since the OM Digital Solutions EU headquarters is located in Germany it is natural that central European consumers receive their stuff quicker.
 

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I don't think that rattling would be an issue for me as I tend to NOT shake my lenses. At least while shooting. But I guess as a Panasonic man he had to complain about something.
I just picked my lens from the nearest UPS Access Point. Of course... the first thing I did after opening the box was give a shake to the lens. Well...I doesn´t actually rattle. Feels very solid and sturdy quality product. OK.. if I shake it hard enough the lens gives a muted rattling sound but that can be focus ring, focus clutch mechanism, zooming ring, lens shade or or the retracting mechanism. Anyway the sound is nowhere as loud as in Matti Sulanto´s video and something that I would never paid any attention in any circumstances.
 
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It might interest you that Robin Wong finally got his hands on an 8-25, although he had to buy it himself. Here's a quick hands-on preview. He has a pretty convincing weather-sealing demonstration.
https://robinwong.blogspot.com/2021/06/olympus-mzuiko-8-25mm-f4-pro-first.html

He also notes that Malaysian police raided the home studio of a photographer who shot during the lockdown. Even photography inside your own home studio is prohibited! Geez. He better be careful.
https://robinwong.blogspot.com/2021/07/commercial-studio-raided-for-filming.html
 
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It might interest you that Robin Wong finally got his hands on an 8-25, although he had to buy it himself. Here's a quick hands-on preview. He has a pretty convincing weather-sealing demonstration.
https://robinwong.blogspot.com/2021/06/olympus-mzuiko-8-25mm-f4-pro-first.html

He also notes that Malaysian police raided the home studio of a photographer who shot during the lockdown. Even photography inside your own home studio is prohibited! Geez. He better be careful.
https://robinwong.blogspot.com/2021/07/commercial-studio-raided-for-filming.html
Wow, I can not believe their government would be that authoritarian.
 

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Wow, I can not believe their government would be that authoritarian.

As much as I agree with you.
I also see it from the other side. Controlling the spread of Covid and resulting deaths. Especially in HIGH density population centers, where the virus is more easily spread.

It is the same situation in the US, with the argument to open the economy so more business don't fail (as so many have already closed), but risk spreading the Covid virus and more people dying. Or keep the businesses closed, until Covid can be brought under control.

Whichever side you chose, there are valid arguments for the other.
It is a lose-lose situation.
There is no perfect answer.

The only exit from this situation, that I know is, vaccination of EVERYBODY.
 
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As much as I agree with you.
I also see it from the other side. Controlling the spread of Covid and resulting deaths. Especially in HIGH density population centers, where the virus is more easily spread.

It is the same situation in the US, with the argument to open the economy so more business don't fail (as so many have already closed), but risk spreading the Covid virus and more people dying. Or keep the businesses closed, until Covid can be brought under control.

Whichever side you chose, there are valid arguments for the other.
It is a lose-lose situation.
There is no perfect answer.

The only exit from this situation, that I know is, vaccination of EVERYBODY.

Absolutely! The only way to stop this virus is full vaccination of everybody. Regardless of whether one objects to the vaccination because of political, philosophical, or religious grounds does not change the fact that the vaccines work to prevent infection, prevent the spread of the virus, and prevent death. Countries like Malaysia, Australia, and Japan which did not pursue vaccinating the population early are now paying the price. :-(

Malaysia has fully vaccinated only 7.6% of their population! https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2021/health/global-covid-vaccinations/
 
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Absolutely! The only way to stop this virus is full vaccination of everybody. Regardless of whether one objects to the vaccination because of political, philosophical, or religious grounds does not change the fact that the vaccines work to prevent infection, prevent the spread of the virus, and prevent death. Countries like Malaysia, Australia, and Japan which did not pursue vaccinating the population early are now paying the price. :-(

Malaysia has fully vaccinated only 7.6% of their population. https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2021/health/global-covid-vaccinations/
You forgot ignorance.
 

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Limits on indoor social gatherings and underground businesses are pretty common measures everywhere. I think it's the restrictions on the outdoor activities that are excessive. Robin should be able to go outside and shoot photos, as long as he is reasonably careful. People spending more time outside instead of inside might actually help to control the spread. That other photographer operating a home studio is a different story.

Anyways, as excited as I am about this lens, I think I will probably try to wait for a price drop. Recently, I looked back at my old photos with the C-7070WZ, and I think overall my new photos with E-M1 II and 12-100mm F4 cannot match them. I do think some of my best photos were with the wide-angle WCON-07C wide-angle converter (0.7x), so maybe I need to have that ultra-wide capability again, even more than I thought.

Or maybe I am just in a creative rut and I need more time to figure out the 12-100mm F4. Maybe it is not the right time to buy a new lens, and so getting 8-25mm F4 so soon could just set my photography back even more. But the Canadian dollar probably won't stay this high forever, so I won't wait too long. First discount I see, I will jump on it.

Btw, as disappointed as I am with the size of 8-25mm F4, especially extended at 8mm, it will still be much more compact than my old WCON-07C with the CLA-4 adapter. I remember using the WCON on the streets back in the day and some guy said to me something like, "Wow, that's a crazy lens!" I know I won't get such comments with the 8-25mm F4.
 

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