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I think it's more aimed at the 2 lens kit, think of how well it would pair with a 40-150 Pro or a notional 50-200, with common filter threads and a small gap between the two lenses.
I was thinking the same thing, the 8-25 with the 40-150 would be a very nice 2 lens set up. Throw a TC in the bag and you have quite the range with excellent image quality.
 
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A 70-250mm F3.5 is in development. Somebody at DPR forum hinted that several times. And his hints proven to be are accurate during last years.
Just wondering what sort of animal (size & weight) should we expect for such a lens. Bigger than the PL50-200? Then again, the short end does not meet/overlap with any of the existing mid-range zooms from Oly. As @Darmok N Jalad mentioned below your post, the PL trio was a smart move.

As for now, maybe an Oly8-25 + PL50-200 duo works for most situations.
 

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Just wondering what sort of animal (size & weight) should we expect for such a lens. Bigger than the PL50-200? Then again, the short end does not meet/overlap with any of the existing mid-range zooms from Oly. As @Darmok N Jalad mentioned below your post, the PL trio was a smart move.
At least the same weight & size as the Zuiko 40-150mm F2.8 (or the old Zuiko 50-200mm F2.8-3.5) with 72mm filter thread. For "minimalists" a future 40-150mm F4 will be beter choice (500-550 grams?). The PL50-200mm is a great example what m4/3 platform can offer. Olympus/OM designs are too ambitious sometimes.
As for now, maybe an Oly8-25 + PL50-200 duo works for most situations.
The only thing missing is one or two bright primes and you're covered. I would really appreciate more info regarding these "bright primes" from Zuiko roadmap. I do hope that OM will update it during the upcoming OM-D development announcenment this fall.
 

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I would probably buy a 40-150 F/4 if it wasn’t too outrageous. The 40-150 2.8 is a fantastic and versatile lens, just a little large. If an F/4 version could be smaller and lighter, that would really be something. I know the PL50-200 exists, but it costs more than the 40-150 2.8 most of the time.
 
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Maybe it's just me, but I don't see a reason for a 40-150/4 since we have some 40-150/175 with f/4-5.6. Ok, those are not PRO lenses, but at 210g my P45-175/4-5.6 it's exactly what this m43 system is about. One stop at the tele end from f/4 to f/5.6 is not worth, for me, any extra weight, size, money.
Oly makes wonderful camera bodies, but on the lenses side I seem to lean towards Panasonic (Leica). They simply seem to stick better with the m43 system's philosophy.

As for the "bright primes", the system is missing the f/1.4 primes. So Sigma has filled up the gap in the most economic/efficient way.
 

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Maybe it's just me, but I don't see a reason for a 40-150/4 since we have some 40-150/175 with f/4-5.6. Ok, those are not PRO lenses, but at 210g my P45-175/4-5.6 it's exactly what this m43 system is about. One stop at the tele end from f/4 to f/5.6 is not worth, for me, any extra weight, size, money.
Oly makes wonderful camera bodies, but on the lenses side I seem to lean towards Panasonic (Leica). They simply seem to stick better with the m43 system's philosophy.

As for the "bright primes", the system is missing the f/1.4 primes. So Sigma has filled up the gap in the most economic/efficient way.


None of these lenses are sealed, none support the full range of automation on an Oly body and a 40-150/4 PRO likely would be TC compatible as well.

m43 has for quite a long time had a lack of mid-range glass that matched up well with the E-M5's. You've had a choice between consumer glass, generally good performing but lacking the build and sealing of the E-M5, and the f2.8 PRO lenses, which have the build and optics, but are big and match poorly with the E-M5's unless using an add-on grip that turns the E-M5 into an E-M1 sized package with worse ergonomics. Starting with the 12-45/4 we're finally seeing lenses which match up better with the E-M5.
 

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I'm really looking forward to the 8-25 lense. In my view it is a perfect travel lense for both city- and landscape. I might pair this with a 45 mm f/1.2 for a nice two lenses combination. It's about time to travel again.
 

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Maybe it's just me, but I don't see a reason for a 40-150/4 since we have some 40-150/175 with f/4-5.6. Ok, those are not PRO lenses, but at 210g my P45-175/4-5.6 it's exactly what this m43 system is about. One stop at the tele end from f/4 to f/5.6 is not worth, for me, any extra weight, size, money.
Oly makes wonderful camera bodies, but on the lenses side I seem to lean towards Panasonic (Leica). They simply seem to stick better with the m43 system's philosophy.

As for the "bright primes", the system is missing the f/1.4 primes. So Sigma has filled up the gap in the most economic/efficient way.

Right now if you want Olympus pro glass it is the 40-150/2.8. If you don't like the weight, there is no lighter option, other than the non-pro lenses, like the 40-150R.
Same situation existed in the FF world with the 70-200/2.8. That is a HEAVY lens. I tried it and passed on it. For me, it would have to live on a monopod. The 70-200/4 however at HALF the weight is much more usable, hand holding, for me.
If you do not NEED the f/2.8 aperture, the f/4 lens would save you a significant amount of weight. IF the 40-150/4 mirrors the 70-200/4.

Is f/4 worth it over f/5.6? It depends. If you are shooting in low light, then YES.
For me, it definitely was worth it. Rather than shoot at ISO 12800 with my f/5.6 lens, I could shoot at ISO 6400 with the f/4 lens.
I could shoot at ISO 3200 with the f/2.8 lens. But for me, the additional weight of the f/2.8 lens was too great for the extra stop of light. f/4 was "good enough," for the field that I normally shoot at.

As for Olympus vs. Panasonic.
Specifically the Olympus 40-150/2.8 vs, Panasonic 35-100/2.8. Yes, I agree. In fact, the 35-100/2.8 has been on my wish list for a long time, as a LIGHTER alternative to the 40-150/2.8, with the same max aperture. But it has a shorter max FL, so not quite comparable.
 

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The flip side is that the 40-150 PRO is quite small and light, it's smaller and lighter than the FTZ+70-300E combo I use on my Z5, but is f2.8 and takes TC's (vs f4.5-5.6 and no TC compatibility)

The 35-100/2.8 is just absolutely tiny if you can live with only 100mm (200mm-e)
 

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Imagine if the future 40-150mm Pro and the other Pro telephoto lenses on the roadmap materialize and they all have IS. If there is a 40-150mm F4 IS Pro, a 50-200mm F2.8 IS Pro, and a 50-230mm F4 IS Pro, where would that leave the 40-150mm F2.8 Pro?

I probably wouldn't have minded if they focused on those "bright prime lenses" on the map and brought out something like a 10mm F1.4 before the 8-25mm F4. But with 8-25mm F4, I think they will turn their attention to a small 40-150mm Pro now. There aren't a lot of smaller weather-sealed lenses to match with E-M5 III so that is probably something they should address soon.
 

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Imagine if the future 40-150mm Pro and the other Pro telephoto lenses on the roadmap materialize and they all have IS. If there is a 40-150mm F4 IS Pro, a 50-200mm F2.8 IS Pro, and a 50-230mm F4 IS Pro, where would that leave the 40-150mm F2.8 Pro?

I probably wouldn't have minded if they focused on those "bright prime lenses" on the map and brought out something like a 10mm F1.4 before the 8-25mm F4. But with 8-25mm F4, I think they will turn their attention to a small 40-150mm Pro now. There aren't a lot of smaller weather-sealed lenses to match with E-M5 III so that is probably something they should address soon.

At the longer end, it would benefit the system to have OIS on top of the IBIS, for additional stabilization.
At 300mm, my 70-300 is marginally stabilized by the IBIS. My wobble will sometimes exceed the ability of the IBIS to compensate for.

I expect the 40-150/2.8 to be replaced by a 40-150/2.8 with IS/Sync IS or as you said a 50-200/2.8 with IS/Sync IS.
Because if you put a MC20 on the 40-150/2.8, you are up at 300mm where I already have trouble holding it steady.
 

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Imagine if the future 40-150mm Pro and the other Pro telephoto lenses on the roadmap materialize and they all have IS. If there is a 40-150mm F4 IS Pro, a 50-200mm F2.8 IS Pro, and a 50-230mm F4 IS Pro, where would that leave the 40-150mm F2.8 Pro?

I probably wouldn't have minded if they focused on those "bright prime lenses" on the map and brought out something like a 10mm F1.4 before the 8-25mm F4. But with 8-25mm F4, I think they will turn their attention to a small 40-150mm Pro now. There aren't a lot of smaller weather-sealed lenses to match with E-M5 III so that is probably something they should address soon.

My expectation is the f4 adds to the line and the f2.8 IS replaces the current 40-150 with an updated SyncIS-capable lens. The lack of SyncIS-capable IS on the 40-150 is really its only weakness at this time.

The current model could either retire or get cheaper as a result.
 

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And NZD$1749 in New Zealand. But discovered that OMDS have not yet set up an Olympus NZ shop, or are prepared to ship from AUS, which used to happen, so we have to go to local distributors.
 
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A 70-250mm F3.5 is in development. Somebody at DPR forum hinted that several times. And his hints proven to be are accurate during last years.
Hmmm could be. Based on other lens releases, I expect it to be f/4 and to outzoom the competition. The competition is 70-300, 100-400, and 80-400. I thus expect a minimum 5x zoom: 50-250, or 45-225. Even a 6x maybe: 40-240. Either way, as long as possible with f/4 and a 72mm filter thread.

Anyhow I have no idea, it is just fun to speculate.
 
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