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Olympus 45 and Panasonic Leica 42.5 - Super Creepy Mannequin Head Bokeh Comparison

Discussion in 'This or That? (MFT only)' started by Amin Sabet, Mar 14, 2014.

  1. Amin Sabet

    Amin Sabet Administrator

    Apr 10, 2009
    Boston, MA (USA)
    Okay, time for a quick bokeh comparison between the Olympus 45 and Panasonic Leica 42.5. My kids and wife think this mannequin head I ordered from Amazon is super creepy, and I have to say I agree. So this will probably be its one and only appearance here at Mu-43.com, but I was looking for a way to do controlled bokeh testing, and my kids won't stand still for pictures.

    Here are a few of the things I anticipate being nitpicked about:
    -The framing isn't matched. Yes, the 42.5 is shorter (wider angle of view), and I didn't move the tripod for the shots. If I had moved the tripod for the shot to match framing, the 42.5 would have more blur than shown here, and someone would have told me that I should have matched perspective. Can't have it all.
    -The f-numbers aren't matched. Yes, I shot the Oly wide open at f/1.8 and the PL wide open at f/1.2 for all the shots. There's more than one way to do a bokeh test, and I'm guessing this will be of more interest to people than a matched f-number comparison.
    -The photos are crappy. Yes, I made no effort to take good photos here. Just rattled off a few bokeh shots before too many of my neighbors see me with a woman's head on a stick.

    Now onto the comparisons. Click through for full-res (Lightroom 4.3 conversions from RAW, all settings to defaults, camera = E-M1. First one is the Oly in each set:

    My suggestion is to middle-click on each to open the full-res version on a browser tab (or right click and open in new tab) and the switch back and forth between tabs to compare. Works great if your browser automatically sizes the image to fit the window.

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    13154990245_f69b67b825_c. 13154989995_440c8f643d_c.

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  2. GFFPhoto

    GFFPhoto Mu-43 All-Pro

    Feb 24, 2013
    Thats awesome :smile:
     
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  3. taz98spin

    taz98spin Mu-43 Top Veteran

    843
    May 13, 2011
    NYC
    I can only imagin the fear/shock the passing drivers must have felt seeing a head on top of the tripod :tongue:
     
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  4. soulofoto

    soulofoto Mu-43 Regular

    62
    Mar 21, 2012
    great test...I almost prefer the Leica...but the more I look they are very close...the skin tones on the mannequin seem a bit more saturated on the Oly... a little more forehead and cheek highlights on the Leica
     
  5. Dramaturg

    Dramaturg Mu-43 Top Veteran

    614
    Jun 7, 2013
    Ukraine
    Yevgen
    Thank you, Amin. What I observe is this:
    1) N42.5 appears sharper wide open than O45. Your test shots confirm that. Just look at the grass and asphalt pavement at the third pair of shots. This is really amazing as I always considered O45 to be a very sharp lens.
    2) Bokeh of Nokt is smoother, but the difference is not too obvious (simply because O45 has a rather good OOF rendering)
    3) It seems that the DOF of O45 is almost equal to that of N42,5 when shot from the same distance. I think N42.5 would have less DOF if you matched the framing, but from what I see here the difference is ... not that big.
     
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  6. Amin Sabet

    Amin Sabet Administrator

    Apr 10, 2009
    Boston, MA (USA)
    I agree with all of that.
     
  7. demiro

    demiro Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Nov 7, 2010
    They thought he was shooting a supermodel in tight black clothing.
     
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  8. taz98spin

    taz98spin Mu-43 Top Veteran

    843
    May 13, 2011
    NYC
    :biggrin:
     
  9. Jay86

    Jay86 Mu-43 Veteran

    477
    Dec 26, 2012
    Quote of the day! :biggrin:
     
  10. Jacquesass

    Jacquesass Mu-43 Regular

    55
    Feb 17, 2014
    Such creamy bokeh!

    Wait, "bokeh" does mean "severed mannaquin head complexion", doesn't it? I might be using it wrong.
     
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  11. tomO2013

    tomO2013 Mu-43 Top Veteran

    799
    Oct 28, 2013
    This is officially the best bokeh test going. We can compare the bokeh and scare the crap out of your neighbours at the same time. Score!
    What's not to like.

    Actually that head on the tripod reminds of this kids tv show thing that we had growing up called 'Garbage Pale Kids'. Anybody remember that? Well either that or the baby head spider from Toy Story!
     
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  12. taz98spin

    taz98spin Mu-43 Top Veteran

    843
    May 13, 2011
    NYC
    As a kid in the 80s, yes I saw the movie and collected their cards as well! :smile:

    Topps still releases their cards!
     
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  13. Amin Sabet

    Amin Sabet Administrator

    Apr 10, 2009
    Boston, MA (USA)
    Here's a few where my son subbed in for the mannequin and I tried to move my feet enough between shots to keep the framing similar. As you can see, my boy was none to pleased to stay still, especially with the son in his face.

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    13166969934_531849646d_c. 13166969694_9f7eed4638_c.

    13166970404_7d2ce4404f_c. 13166707655_54e35b6e2b_c.
     
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  14. HappyFish

    HappyFish Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Sep 8, 2012
    Chad
    Should have had him hold the head :)
     
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  15. Dramaturg

    Dramaturg Mu-43 Top Veteran

    614
    Jun 7, 2013
    Ukraine
    Yevgen
    Thanks, Amin. N42.5 does have more background blur but all these tests prove that O45 is still an amazing lens. Actually the difference in DOF might not be that evident at all for a non-experienced user/customer. I think where N42.5 really shines is in outstanding sharpness wide open, unique bokeh character, one stop light gathering advantage and great build quality.
     
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  16. val

    val Mu-43 Top Veteran

    548
    Dec 19, 2013
    Australia
    William
    Despite the difference in price, I do find the 42.5 worthy of it's price although it won't be long until it drops a bit in price.

    I was really considering the 75mm f1.8 but now I'm thinking the 42.5 more and more although I do wish Panasonic didn't add O.I.S.
     
  17. Jacquesass

    Jacquesass Mu-43 Regular

    55
    Feb 17, 2014
    It would be interesting to see how much the 42.5 OIS helps with image stabilization vs. the GX7 IBIS on vs. GX7 IBIS off (vs., say, EM10 IBIS).

    I'm guessing OIS = EM10 > GX7 IBIS > no IBIS ... but it would be cool to see it tested, as adding OIS definitely contributed to size/weight/price.
     
  18. loadsam

    loadsam New to Mu-43

    2
    Sep 27, 2012
    Did you do a test of Pana Lecia 42.5 at f/1.8?
     
  19. speedandstyle

    speedandstyle Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    That is creepy! :hiding:

    I do think the Panasonic is a bit sharper with better bokeh but NOT $1200 better.
     
  20. jyc860923

    jyc860923 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Feb 28, 2012
    Shenyang, China
    贾一川
    I can't help laughing at such a creepy head on a stick appears in street that being seriously taken photos of, and from the comparison I'd say Oly 45 1.8 did very well when compared to the much much more expensive Pana