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Olympus 40-150mm f2.8 1.4x -- dilemma

Discussion in 'Open Discussion' started by RamblinR, Dec 20, 2014.

  1. RamblinR

    RamblinR Mu-43 Top Veteran

    545
    Aug 16, 2012
    Sunshine Coast, Qld Australia
    Maria
    I have ordered and paid for the Olympus 40-150mm f2.8 with 1.4x converter from an Australian store for a great price. My order has not been posted at this time.

    I already have the 35-100mm f2.8 which is an amazingly sharp lens and is much smaller than the new Olympus but this great price got me a bit excited.
    At this stage I would not sell the 35-100 as it is much smaller and lighter than the new Oly lens.
    I also have the Oly 75-300 which is only good in brighter light due to the slow aperture and softens from 200mm and worse after 250mm
    I thought this lens with the 1.4x (giving me 210mm at f4) would be a better lens and I'm sure it will be but it is much heavier than any lens I currently own and I'm just not sure about the purchase now and whether I can handle the weight and size (I sold all my Canon gear because of weight and size)
    I know I will love the focal length with or without the 1.4x but it's the weight I'm concerned about as I am starting to have a problem with my hands and they are getting noticeably worse at the moment.
    Lens not available in any local shops to have a look at or try on the body and whilst camerasize.com shows it next to the 75-300 it doesn't help without actually having it mounted on the body.

    I don't like posting threads like this but I really don't know what to do.

    Cancel the order?
    Let it come and try it and if OK keep it?
    Let it come and try it and if too heavy sell it ... but I'm not prepared to lose money on it so maybe I should just cancel.

    I don't think I have ever had a lens purchase keep playing on my mind like this one has. e.g. Will it be too big? Do I really need the lens? Do I really need that focal length? Won't the 75-300 do for the amount of long tele that I shoot .. but I would like a faster lens than this. It's a lot of money for something I might not use a lot due to its weight and I already have the 35-100. Will I be happy to carry it with me when out shooting? Should be good for video. Good for macro with nice blurred backgrounds (I don't have a macro lens) ..... This and more keep going around in my mind. HELP!
     
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  2. Harvey Melvin Richards

    Harvey Melvin Richards Photo Posting Junkie

    Feb 15, 2014
    Southwest Utah
    I'm not familiar with the 35-100 f/2.8, but I just received the 40-150 and the 1.4x TC. The 40-150 is huge, much bigger than my 75-300. It's also much faster. When shooting with this lens I don't really notice the weight. When I go to put the lens, or lens and camera away, I immediately notice the size. Not only is it longer than the 75-300, it's .25" larger (with the hood) in diameter.

    I'd say keep it and try it. I love the distant IQ, and the close focusing is phenomenal. I'm not in love with the size of my 12-40 f/2.8 either, but it is by far my my most used lens, but this will most likely change with me having the 40-150 f/2.8

    And keep an eye on this thread. https://www.mu-43.com/showthread.php?t=70082
     
  3. RamblinR

    RamblinR Mu-43 Top Veteran

    545
    Aug 16, 2012
    Sunshine Coast, Qld Australia
    Maria
    I wish this lens was the same size but was a 80-200 with the option of the 1.4x (making it 280mm).
    Would have been a nicer match for the panasonic 35-100.
     
  4. humzai

    humzai Mu-43 Veteran

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    Apr 17, 2012
    It's not that bad. The 35-100mmis amazing but so is the 40-150. I think you'll have user for both. I haven't used my 100-300 in weeks, and that was before the teleconverter came out.
     
  5. mattia

    mattia Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    May 3, 2012
    The Netherlands
    It's not dissimilar in size and weight to a canon 70-200/f4.0L if you want to compare to a lens that's fairly easy to find in shops. It's also very close in size to the Oly 50-200 43 lens.
     
  6. christofp

    christofp Mu-43 Regular

    135
    Jul 21, 2012
    If you like and need tele zoom lenses, you should simply sit and wait until the lens and tc arrive.

    Once they arrive, you will be happy. Trust me!

    I had a hard time waiting for the tcon, especially when the local store told me it will not be available in 2014 at all.

    Meanwhile I have both and am very happy with it. I will sell my other tele lenses (50-200 and 75-300) because the new lens can replace them all.
    (If I would have a 35-100 I might be tempted to keep it because of its perfect size/performance ratio)

    Christof
     
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  7. 350duser

    350duser Mu-43 Veteran

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    Sep 26, 2012
    Brisbane, QLD
    pm sent
     
  8. wjiang

    wjiang Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    How do you work with your lenses normally? Do you take a whole bunch or pick very specifically which ones you'll take? I normally end up taking other lenses along. If size/weight really matters, I'll just take a couple of primes, but then I'm not likely to need a serious telephoto. One thing to consider is that as soon as you need to take 2 of the existing telephotos, the combined mass and weight is likely to be equivalent or more, and more hassle with lens changes compared to the single 40-150 + TC. Weight for hand-holding is another thing altogether, however, and you'd really need to try it to decide.

    If I were in your shoes, I would probably consolidate this:
    35-100mm f2.8
    14-140mm I
    75mm f1.8
    75-300mm II

    To this:
    75mm f/1.8 and 40-150mm f/2.8 + 1.4TC - I would probably only ever take one or the other combo, not both.
    Maybe swap the 14-140mm I with the 14-140mm II if you really need it for travel, it's smaller, faster, and all around better.

    The difference in FoV between 210mm versus 300mm is actually not that huge (try 420mm versus 600mm at http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/lens/simulator/). The shorter lens is also sharper and faster (f/4 versus f/6.3-ish), which I imagine makes things a lot easier. The thing I struggle with the most with my 45-175mm + TCON-17 is the slow shutter speeds more than anything else.
     
  9. David A

    David A Mu-43 All-Pro

    Sep 30, 2011
    Brisbane, Australia
    I once worked in rehabilitation and without knowing what the problem is and how it affects you, no one can answer that question.

    I've got the lens but not the TC. What I can say is that the size and weight aren't as bad as I thought they might be from some of the comments I read before I got it. Even so, it's still my largest and heaviest lens and if you want something small, light and unobrtrusive to carry around for snapshots and street photography (not that you'd probably use this lens for that purpose), it's certainly not the lens you want. If you want to carry the camera and lens around in your hand for a couple of hours it's not the lens you want but carrying it on a strap over the shoulder or in a bag I doubt it would be a problem. Definitely don't hold it in your hands more than you have to if you're having hand problems. Actual handheld photography is going to depend on your problem and how you work. It is definitely big and heavy for a M43 lens bit it's not so big and heavy as to make shooting hand held a problem for me and the weight may even make it a bit more stable in the hand than a lighter lens of similar size might be.

    You didn't say what camera you use. If you use a Panasonic body and you're having problems I'd probably go for the 35-100 over the 40-150 because the 35-100 has in lens stabilisation and the 40-150 doesn't. Panasonic bodies don't have in body image stabilisation so you could run into problems with camera shake with the 40-150 if your grip isn't good or the weight is a problem. That's going to be less of a problem with Olympus bodies because they have in body stabilisation. That's probably the most I could say with any certainty on the physical aspects of use for you.

    Apart from that it's simply a lovely lens with great image quality and it seems to auto focus better for me on my E-M1 at 150mm than my 75-300 does at 300. Given the results I've seen from it so far at 150mm, I'm probably going to find myself using it in preference to the 75-300 and cropping instead. Image quality is that good. The tele-extender buys you a bit more reach again for a 1 stop loss in speed so it's still going to be faster than the 75-300 at 300 mm. I think there's very little chance you would have any complaints at all about your results with it that you could blame on the lens. The bad shots I've had with it are definitely all down to me, not the lens.

    You're on the sunshine coast. PM me if you're coming down to Brisbane and want to try handling mine to see how you go. I'm retired and happy to meet up with you somewhere if I'm free.
     
  10. RamblinR

    RamblinR Mu-43 Top Veteran

    545
    Aug 16, 2012
    Sunshine Coast, Qld Australia
    Maria
    Thanks everyone for your help with this, I have put the lens on hold with the seller until I make a final decision.

    David: Specialist is having trouble diagnosing the problem with my hands and feet (problem is affecting both). Have just finished having blood tests, scans, X-rays and MRI's, still no answer as to what is causing the problem. I use 2x em1, em5 and G6. I currently have the 35-100mm lens and it is a great lens, sharp and light but I often would like it to be longer. I'd probably hold on to both as this one is much smaller and lighter when needed.

    wjiang: I would sell the 75-300mm but would hold on to the others as I am moving into video work and the 35-100 has IS for on the G6 as does the 14-140mm and after what I hear about jitter in the new lens I would stay with the older larger one.

    I realise nobody can give me the answer but it helps to clear my head. Thanks everyone.
     
  11. David A

    David A Mu-43 All-Pro

    Sep 30, 2011
    Brisbane, Australia
    Maria,

    I hope they come up with a diagnosis and, even better, a cure.

    If you want to try handling my lens at some time to help with the decision, my offer still stands. Just PM me and I can try to meet up with you.
     
  12. RamblinR

    RamblinR Mu-43 Top Veteran

    545
    Aug 16, 2012
    Sunshine Coast, Qld Australia
    Maria
    350duser and David A

    Do either of you live on the north side of Brisbane?
    Might need to come and check out the lens as it's never in any shops here.
    Let me know.
     
  13. 350duser

    350duser Mu-43 Veteran

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    Sep 26, 2012
    Brisbane, QLD
    I am very close to the city. Happy to meet you in the city/southbank.

    TA
     
  14. RamblinR

    RamblinR Mu-43 Top Veteran

    545
    Aug 16, 2012
    Sunshine Coast, Qld Australia
    Maria
    Waiting to hear back from David in hope that he is closer.

    But ... is there anyone on the Sunshine Coast that has this lens that would allow me to view. Thanks