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Olympus 12mm or legacy

Discussion in 'Adapted Lenses' started by brianvickers, Mar 24, 2012.

  1. brianvickers

    brianvickers Mu-43 Regular

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    Jul 1, 2011
    I'm interested in a good prime for landscape...I like the new 12mm but its a bit pricey...can you recommend a good adaptive lens solution...i.e. 20mm equivalent focal length or similar.
    I use an EP-1 and will soon have an E-M5 too
    I currently use a Olympus 14-42mm, 40-150mm and 20mm Panasonic.
     
  2. Jonathan F/2

    Jonathan F/2 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 10, 2011
    Los Angeles, CA
    The 12 is a jewel in the M43 line-up. It cannot be replaced with an adapted lens. It's that good.
     
  3. EthanFrank

    EthanFrank Mu-43 Regular

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    Oct 30, 2011
    Well, manual focus is easy with wide legacy lenses, so that's not an issue. However, finding legacy lenses wide and fast enough is near impossible. If you want something approaching a 24mm field of view, your options are limited to a few extremely expensive Nikons, even fewer Canons, and an affordable but very slow Voigtlander (the very good 12mm f/5.6). There really is no alternative to the 12mm f/2, as such a lens is basically impossible on full frame, which is obviously a requirement of most legacy lenses.

    An affordable alternative (albeit not nearly as wide, but as wide as you're going to get at a price below the Olympus 12mm) is the Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5. The LTM mount version can be found cheaper than the M mount version - coupled with a very cheap LTM-M adapter and an M-m4/3 adapter and you're set.
     
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  4. Grinch

    Grinch Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Jan 9, 2011
    Canada
    You may want to check out the SLR Magic 12mm f1.6, although its been allusive concerning availability. Not as pricey as the oly, supposed to be $499, have not been able to see one in person yet. Native mount,not adapted, and no AF.
     
  5. Manu-4Vendetta

    Manu-4Vendetta Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Jul 8, 2011
    Dominican Republic
    The 12mm SLR its cheaper and in the tests seems a good lens. I think in a future buy.
     
  6. EthanFrank

    EthanFrank Mu-43 Regular

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    Oct 30, 2011
    I highly doubt the SLR magic lens will preform even 5/8 as well as the Olympus lens, as the price would suggest.
     
  7. kurtwist

    kurtwist Mu-43 Veteran

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    Feb 6, 2011
    Southern Calif.
    I like and use a lot of legacy lenses, but...the 12mm f2 is unbeatable (for now)
     
  8. fredlong

    fredlong Just this guy...

    Apr 18, 2011
    Massachusetts USA
    Fred
    A 20mm equivalent is 10mm which you're not going to find in an adapted legacy lens. The Voigtlander 12/5.6 was mentioned. The older non-rangefinder coupled version is about $680. You're getting pretty close to the price of the Oly 12/2. The Voigtlander 15/4.5 that was mentioned can be had for $500, but why not the Panasonic 14/2.5? Both Voigtlanders large and heavy and fully manual. CameraQuest is a Voigtlander dealer.

    The Olympus 9-18 may be your best choice if the cost isn't too high for you. It's not a prime but will likely perform at least as good as any of the options that have been brought up, with the exception of the Olympus 12/2. It covers the 10mm focal length you're looking for, it's very compact and the smaller maximum aperture shouldn't be a problem for landscapes.

    Another option is to use your 20mm and stitching software. Nine images with 50% overlap will be equivalent to 10mm.

    Fred
     
  9. EthanFrank

    EthanFrank Mu-43 Regular

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    Oct 30, 2011
    Fred, good advice but one correction: The Voigtlanders indeed are metal and mechanical but they are extremely compact and not particularly heavy, especially the 15mm. Also, in terms of IQ, both are miles ahead of the Panasonic 14mm. The trade-off, though, is speed.
     
  10. fredlong

    fredlong Just this guy...

    Apr 18, 2011
    Massachusetts USA
    Fred
    You're right. I was thinking of the 77mm filter adapter for the 12mm and then the picture in my head turned into their longer faster wide angles.

    It's all moot anyway if he really wants a 10.

    Fred
     
  11. EthanFrank

    EthanFrank Mu-43 Regular

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    Oct 30, 2011
    Yup :) a rectilinear 10mm for less than $800 is just never going to happen. I wish I was wrong though. Nikon's closest attempt is more than 15x the price!
     
  12. shnitz

    shnitz Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Aug 25, 2011
    Austin, TX
    As others said, there is pretty much nothing that works for your needs, as when going wide, we're fighting a losing battle with the crop factor. There is one option if you're willing to spend the money, and that is to buy an ultra wide lens for aps cameras like the canon 50d or Nikon d7000. By this time of course you could just buy the Olympus 9-18mm in either m4/3 mount or even the 4/3 version with an Olympus or Panasonic adapter, but if you're willing to pay and want speed, then you can buy yourself something like the tokina 11-16mm or Nikon 12-24mm. Since you want it for landscapes, you will be stopped down to f/4 or smaller anyway, so I'd say just get the 9-18.
     
  13. Declan97

    Declan97 Mu-43 Veteran

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    Feb 3, 2012
    Padang, Indonesia
    The closer from 12mm was samyang/rokinon 14mm then voigt 15mm and tokina rmc/mft 17mm

    Sent from my GT-I9100 using EP-L1
     
  14. songs2001

    songs2001 Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Jul 8, 2011
    The 11-16 2.8 Tokina is not bad on m43 bodies., it's got a manual focus mode similar to the Olympus where you disengage the lens to override focus. The cons is that it's rather large, expensive, doesn't AF with cheaper Nikon bodies and no aperture control with non modern Nikon bodies and is a bit soft wide open.

    Saw that you'll have a em5. Just get the kit with 12-50 if you want something a bit wider. Nothing will be cheaper short of getting a add on wide angle axillary lens.

    Your other option is getting the sigma 10-20 in four thirds mount. I don't know how much it's compatible with micro four thirds. But if you are buying a em-5, you can get a four thirds adapter for free.

    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/559263-REG/Sigma_201107_10_20mm_f_4_5_6_EX_DC.html
     
  15. Declan97

    Declan97 Mu-43 Veteran

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    Feb 3, 2012
    Padang, Indonesia
    Forget to mention vivitar 13/2.8

    Sent from my 2.3.3|GT-P1000 using EP-L1
     
  16. EthanFrank

    EthanFrank Mu-43 Regular

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    Oct 30, 2011
    I never knew that Vivitar 13mm existed, thank you! Imagine that on a D700, yum.
     
  17. Declan97

    Declan97 Mu-43 Veteran

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    Feb 3, 2012
    Padang, Indonesia
    Yes, they exist except on 4/3mount, it will be great on apsc

    Sent from my 2.3.3|GT-P1000 using EP-L1
     
  18. shnitz

    shnitz Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Aug 25, 2011
    Austin, TX
    That vivitar makes more sense for full frame than for aps cameras or us. The tokina 11-16 is just as fast, zooms, and is as optically perfect as they come, with impressive, even sharpness across the range.
     
  19. Declan97

    Declan97 Mu-43 Veteran

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    Feb 3, 2012
    Padang, Indonesia
    Couldnt agree more, now since Im waiting for e3, thinking to change the 14-54mk2 to : 12-60swd to get wider

    Sent from my 2.3.3|GT-P1000 using Evolt 3
     
  20. brianvickers

    brianvickers Mu-43 Regular

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    Jul 1, 2011
    Thanks for all the info, lots of options to consider. I have preordered the 12-50 with the E-M5 but I'm thinking it will not be as good as a prime. Good to know I can get a free 4/3 adaptor.
    Maybe the best option is to invest in the 12mm f2 so that will offer shallow DoF as well as giving me a the wide angle. I'd be interested on your thoughts regarding the relative merits of prime v kit zoom?
    My 20mm f1.7 is good but the 14-42 kit lens that came with my pen is very good too. I want to make some big landscape prints that stand up to scrutiny.