Olympus 12mm F/2 or Panny 14mm f/2.5?

Discussion in 'Native Lenses' started by Bhupinder2002, Jan 15, 2012.

  1. Bhupinder2002

    Bhupinder2002 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Guys thanks for responding to my earlier thread on Panny 20 vs PL25 and I have ordered PL 25 . Now I have already 45mm , PL25 1.4 in pipeline and I need wide angle lens to complete the holy trinity.
    Olympus 12 mm 2 is a great lens but how does it compare with Panny 14 mm 2.5 ? I won't mind slightly less wide angle but the price difference is huge ..
    Panny 14 mm 2.5 for USD 199 vs Oly 12 mm 2 for USD 710- 749
    1) Does Oly offers u much superior optical performance to justify this price gap?
    2) Why will u chose Oly over Panny and vice versa?
    3) What will I lose by choosing Panny 14 mm 2.5?
    Have your say ..
  2. Gillymaru

    Gillymaru Mu-43 Veteran

    When I first got the 14 mm I was happy with its performance. When I compare files from my 11-22mm Oly it shows how average this lens really is. Sure its small and has quick focus but it doesn't float my boat.
    There have been mixed reviews of the 12 mm some reviewers love it, some cane it as being over priced for the quality it delivers. I haven't used it but I think I would probably choose it in preference to the 14 mm. I like the extra speed, image quality is better and it is wider, worth $500?, only your bank manager really knows that.
    At the moment I am hanging on the fence, waiting for the new Oly OM to be released and to see what these high grade Panasonic zooms look like. That is if they ever get around to announcing something instead of just teasing us with mockups.
  3. Bhupinder2002

    Bhupinder2002 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Thanks for this well written reply .I think probably I will hold this purchase as I am not entirely unhappy with my kit lens performance at 14 mm . It would be worth to see what Panny offers.
  4. htc

    htc Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Jan 11, 2011
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    I'm simply a fan of available light, so my choice is obvious. I have had 14 mm also and there was nothing to complain either. Does the quality of 12 mm justify the price cap of these two? No, it does not. On the other hand, if you want 12 mm lens you have to pay what they are asking for.
  5. sin77

    sin77 Mu-43 Veteran

    Dec 9, 2011
    Okay, a slightly out of topic reply from me would be this.

    Buy an ultra wide angle lens, or 12-35x in future.
  6. veereshai

    veereshai Mu-43 Top Veteran

    May 12, 2011
    Arlington, VA
    What is the intended purpose? If you just want a wide angle lens, then 14mm makes more sense. If you want UWA, I'd suggest 9-18mm.
  7. dhazeghi

    dhazeghi Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 6, 2010
    San Jose, CA
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    The 12mm is sharper, but not enormously so. The corners on both are about the same (i.e. kinda soft).

    The perspective is the real difference. 12mm vs. 14mm is actually a big change.

    Personally, I'm sticking to the kit 14-42 lens for wide-angle. Optically it's at least as good as the 14/2.5. It is one stop slower, but shooting wide-angle in low-light handheld isn't something I do much of.

  8. Qwerty

    Qwerty Mu-43 Regular

    Jan 15, 2012
    Sat Sri Akal Down Under

    Looking at the MTF charts of the two, I could not find anything dramatic enough to warrant the price difference. I went with the 14mm and absolutely love it. Very sharp and quite resistant to flare. A great walk around lens.

    If you need anything wider go for the Samyang 7.5mm fish. The cost of both will still be under the 12mm's cost.
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  9. foto2021

    foto2021 Mu-43 Veteran

    Nov 5, 2011
    SE England
    The poll might would be more useful with additional options, such as:

    - Olympus 9-18mm
    - Panasonic LUMIX 7-14mm
    - SLR Magic 12mm f/1.6
    - Samyang 7.5mm fisheye
    - None of the above
  10. RSilva

    RSilva Mu-43 Regular

    Oct 24, 2011
    I have the Oly 12mm and I also have mixed feelings about it. I think that my biggest complain is that the 12mm is too short for architecture and landscape photography and to wide for street/people. I guess that maybe 9mm or 10mm would be perfect for the first and that 14mm makes a nice street lens. The lens has really nice color rendering and detail is ok for portraiture but for landscape and architecture it lacks a bit. Other complain I have is that above F8 image quality drops too much so it´s hyper-focal capabilities loose a bit. But for one thing this lens is really, really good: Night photography. It makes crispy images even at 1/8s handheld.
  11. RDM

    RDM Mu-43 All-Pro

    Hmm, I think you meant to say too LONG for Architecture.
  12. xdayv

    xdayv Color Blind

    Aug 26, 2011
    Tacloban City, Philippines
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    voted for the 14. but it won't be a trinity if you don't get the 12. :biggrin:
  13. Fred49

    Fred49 Mu-43 Regular

    Feb 24, 2010
    I bought both, i ended selling the 14 but it was a very close call.

    I have the 12/20/45, and its the 20 that gets the more use then the 45 then the 12. When i want wider its usualy indoor and the extra 2m and F2 helps.
  14. garfield_cz

    garfield_cz Mu-43 Veteran

    Jul 9, 2011
    Czech Republic
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    14mm could be interesting lens in combination with announced Wide Conversion Lens DMW-GWC1 :thumbup:
  15. Ray Sachs

    Ray Sachs Super Moderator

    Apr 17, 2010
    Near Philadephila

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    I've done tons of street shooting with this lens and with this focal length with other lenses. I also love the 14mm as a street lens, but I wouldn't say the 12mm is too wide.

    Personally, I'm a wide angle freak, so I have both, plus the 9-18 and the Samyung Fisheye. If I was trying to decide between the 12 and 14, I'd get the 14 (and maybe the 9-18 as well, which still brings you in at about the cost of the 12mm). The 12mm is a great lens for my purposes. So is the 14. The 12 is not worth the difference in cost based on optics - if the extra half stop or so of aperture is worth it to you only you can decide.

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  16. harrysue

    harrysue Mu-43 Regular

    Mar 12, 2011
    The poll should have a rationale/purpose, as do the lenses. As in ...

    • Best image quality? 12mm
    • Widest field of view? 12mm
    • Portability? 14mm
    • Value? 14mm
    • Which one do you want? Both

    The cost keeps me from the 12mm. I'd rather have the 9-18mm I guess. On the other hand, $200 for an ebay 14mm was an easy spur-of-the-moment buy for me. In truth, the 14-42 would suffice, but I like the size and extra f-stop of the 14mm.
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  17. RSilva

    RSilva Mu-43 Regular

    Oct 24, 2011
    You are a lucky guy, I just can't get used to such a wide lens. My street shoots work a lot better with the 45mm or 20mm. It get's crazy how close you have to be to the subject to get those shoot's, and if you end up cropping, why use a wide lens in the first place?
    Almost all my photos taken with the 12mm look bad, but when they work, they really shine.
  18. RSilva

    RSilva Mu-43 Regular

    Oct 24, 2011
    I think I never said this here but my English is not a natural thing. It has space for improvement, so I will be glad if someone corrects me and please forgive me for my mistakes.
  19. Kiwi Paul

    Kiwi Paul Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Aug 15, 2011
    Aberdeen Scotland
    I also agree with this advice, I have both but really the 9-18 is all I really need, it's compact and light has very good IQ and a great focal range. The 14mm is a good lens too and sometimes I just prefer going out with a prime, the extra speed (f2.5 for the 14mm compared to about f4 for the 9-18 @ 14mm) is handy in low light.

  20. Lawrence A.

    Lawrence A. Mu-43 All-Pro

    Mar 14, 2012
    New Mexico
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    All micro 4/3 lenses drop dramatically in quality after f8 as diffraction sets in; it's one of the realities of the system. On the other hand, one is using half the focal length for the same angle of view as 35mm, so depth of field is increased for any given angle of view. Even the 20mm at f8 is sharp forever.

    I came here looking for the same information: should I spend the money for the Olympus 12mm or go for the Panasonic 14mm? Think I'll wait to see how the 12-50mm coming with the E-M5 will do at the widest end, though the f2 would be nice for street shooting at night. I'll need to start selling organs on ebay to get it, though!:smile:
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