I've seen lately a spate of complaints about Oly menus. "Ghoulish" and "unfathomable" and other comments. This is understandable, as new folks try out Olys who had never used them before (given the EM5 popularity). For those of us used to these menus now, it might be hard to remember how much of a learning curve they represented. When I started with an EP1 in mid-2009, it took me about 6 months to really get comfortable, and I think I didn't hit my stride until I got an EPL2 with the menus improved! But for newbies, I would say this -- this is singularly the MOST flexible camera I have ever used. Yes, they are extensive, but they are actually not complicated. That is, they are not complicated just for the sake of complication! So, I would ask for those of us who know them, and those who are critical -- what would you change? Behind the gears menu, are a bunch of submenus (and not just scrolling pages ala Panasonic, Nikon or Sony). How else would you work it? The sub-menus are labeled "AF/MF" and "Display" and if you press the info button, you get help? Are the labels bad? I just checked through them, and you could, for instance, change "AF/MF" to "Focus" but would that help? One thing I can think of -- a number of basic settings (for instance, are you shooting AF or MF) are in the gears menu. This forces even basic shooters to the gears menu, with it's very advanced controls along side the easy stuff.q I'd almost want to see the SCP controls in their own, basic menu, and leave the gears menu for the advanced stuff (like button assignments, etc.). What do others think?