Oly 75 and PL 25 1.4

Discussion in 'Native Lenses' started by crashwins, Jul 14, 2013.

  1. crashwins

    crashwins Mu-43 Regular

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    Northampton, MA
    How does the latter compare for that background-destroying, bokeh effect? I guess the Oly has a shallower DoF, but I'm curious if I'd need the Oly if I bought the PL lens.
     
  2. slothead

    slothead Mu-43 All-Pro

    Aug 14, 2012
    Frederick, MD
    That's a big difference in FL Crash. I can't imagine either the 75 or the 25 fulfilling the purpose of the other.
     
  3. WT21

    WT21 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Feb 19, 2010
    Boston
    Very much different. I think the rendition and output of the O75 is better (likley less DOF, and from what I've seen it's a sharper lens with possibly better color), but the working distance is 3X longer, which is significant.
     
  4. carpandean

    carpandean Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Perspective for the same shot would be wildly different due to (as WT21 said) the 3x working distance. Let's say that you wanted to cover roughly 1m of a subject height (upper torso portrait), then you would have to be just under 2m away from the subject with the 25mm and almost 6m away with the 75mm. Surprisingly, the DOF would be slightly narrower at f/1.4 on the 25mm (about 0.25m) than at f/1.8 on the 75mm (about 0.31m.) However, again, think about the perspective difference.
     
  5. kevinparis

    kevinparis Cantankerous Scotsman

    Feb 12, 2010
    Gent, Belgium
    happened to have both lenses to hand and a camera on a tripod

    this is the 25 wide open
    P7140049.

    this is the 75 wide open from the same distance
    P7140047.

    and this is the 25 at a closer distance... not a perfect match... but it was a quick test
    P7140050.

    as other have said they are very different focal lengths... as lenses both are very good.... though the 75 has surprised me in being much more versatile than I thought it would be

    Olympus 75/1.8 - a set on Flickr


    K
     
  6. DeeJayK

    DeeJayK Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Feb 8, 2011
    Pacific Northwest, USA
    Keith
    Good demonstration of the way the telephoto lens compresses the scene. As others have noted these are two very different lenses.

    sent with my phone...please excuse the typos
     
  7. mnhoj

    mnhoj There and back again

    Dec 3, 2011
    Los Angeles
    John M
    Get the 45.
    Right in between both.
     
  8. String

    String Mu-43 Regular

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    Jul 9, 2012
    Canada
    Brian
    Nah... get all 3! :biggrin:
     
  9. iGonzoid

    iGonzoid Mu-43 Veteran

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    I have both the PL 25 and the Ol 75 —*love both of them for different reasons. Both very sharp at max aperture, fast AF and great bokeh in the right circumstances. Love the 25's colour rendition... very Leica. The O 75 is the most fantastic walkabout lens for street candids —*nice reach, fast and the resolution is fabulous. Both are relatively expensive, but worth every penny in the images they produce. Buy both, as the guy said.
     
  10. darosk

    darosk Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Daros
    We all know that this is the only real solution here.
     
  11. crashwins

    crashwins Mu-43 Regular

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    Northampton, MA
    Is there ever going to be a way to get that kind of subject-isolating (pop!) effect I'd get with my ol' Canon 5D2 and the 85mm? After spending a wknd with my Oly 75 I just couldn't get that kind of effect - even wide open.
     
  12. String

    String Mu-43 Regular

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    Jul 9, 2012
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    Brian
    You are never going to get the same oof rendered areas with m43. You are talking a sensor that half the size so to get the equivalent oof, you'd need at least a 45mm f0.9 (providing its an 85 1.8).

    Subject isolation isn't what m43 is about, if thats your main criteria you're probably better of sticking with the 5DII/85
     
  13. crashwins

    crashwins Mu-43 Regular

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    Fuji any better? Yeah, the detail, color, IQ - off the charts. But, yeah, I miss that isolation.
     
  14. MAubrey

    MAubrey Photographer

    Jul 9, 2012
    Bellingham, WA
    Mike Aubrey
    Voigtlander 42.5mm f/0.95 Nokton.

    What was that you were saying...?
     
  15. crashwins

    crashwins Mu-43 Regular

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    Northampton, MA
    Hmm this lens produces a Canon 85mm equivalent on a FF? I'm dubious :) But hopeful!
     
  16. carpandean

    carpandean Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    1/4 the size, actually. APS-C is not even half the size of FF.
     
  17. kevinparis

    kevinparis Cantankerous Scotsman

    Feb 12, 2010
    Gent, Belgium

    crash... you just joined my silly fool list :)

    really?... 'off the charts'.....who gives a flying one about charts

    anyway.. the 75 will do isolation.... if you want the 85/1.8 look though you may be wanting a 42/1.0

    dont have one of those... but this is a 50mm noctilux on a E-p1

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    Across a crowded room by kevinparis, on Flickr

    and this is the 75 on an omd

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    PC060096 by kevinparis, on Flickr

    I wiish people with moans would at least post a picture of what they are complaining about.

    Maybe tomorrow I will take a little time and do a quick test ... 5d and 85/1.8 v OMD with 45 and 75

    then again maybe not...because you know...if you think you get the pop you need from the canon... then use the canon... I will just keep taking photos and enjoying the camera I have

    K

    K
     
  18. crashwins

    crashwins Mu-43 Regular

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    Northampton, MA
    I didn't mean "charts" literally. I'm not a measurebator. And I'm not moaning or groaning. For $900 on a lens, I had a fair question about achieving a certain effect. Go back to my Canon? If you noticed my tenses, I no longer have it and I don't plan on going back. I bought the 75 for that kind of portrait effect in a m43. Probably not a good idea seeing as how it's not totally possible. Sharp-as-hell lens? Yes. Keeper? Yes
     
  19. kevinparis

    kevinparis Cantankerous Scotsman

    Feb 12, 2010
    Gent, Belgium
    Ok understood....sorry..

    it might be worth doing the test...

    K
     
  20. crashwins

    crashwins Mu-43 Regular

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