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O17 for a ride...

Discussion in 'Native Lenses' started by Chrisnmn, May 26, 2013.

  1. Chrisnmn

    Chrisnmn Mu-43 All-Pro

    Apr 26, 2012
    Auckland, New Zealand
    Chris
    As some of you might now, i did a big trip during april and recently got back. for that trip i needed a second body to go with my OMD. I decided on the X100s. But since money is limited, i sold some of my m43 primes and relied on my trusty zooms for the OMD. So i came back, and decided to sell the X100s for bunch of reasons left me wondering about getting some primes for my OMD again, as i like em better when street shooting or documenting stuff. and got trapped in this "grey area" called the Olympus 17mm f1.8

    Everyone says is a "good lens" or "alright lens" and just a few were saying "its a great lens" or a "must". So i drove onto my favorite store here in NZ to test that "alright-ness" of a lens. Slapped the lens onto my OMD and fired away. after playing with it enough, decided to go with it.

    Today i took it for a ride. on the streets. couldnt find much interesting stuff but still i think it will make my point about this lens.

    I think its an awesome lens. it is sharp. how sharp?. is "more-than-you-need" sharp a word?. But as most of the people in gear-forums i would tell, is not as sharp as the O75mm but no other lens in this system is even close to the sharpness and IQ that lens delivers. But it is sharper than the P14 (which i owned in the past) and it is quite on par with my P25 which is also quite there with the P20. but...

    ...let the images do the talking better. english is not my first language.

    All images shot with the OMD - O17 f1.8

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    ...and now the moment all you hardcore-gear-heads-sharpnessisneverenough-pixel-peepers have been waiting for... "before and after" shots showing 100% view in lightroom, SOOC, no adjustments whatsoever.

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    Right click on the image and click "open in a new tab" to view the 100% of the image

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    Right click on the image and click "open in a new tab" to view the 100% of the image

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    Right click on the image and click "open in a new tab" to view the 100% of the image

    what do you guys think?. looks pretty sharp to me, even wide open, right?. This is not intended to be a review of the lens, just my personal experience about this lens. I believe this lens is WAY, WAY better than what most reviews and forum people out there are saying. Its amazing how the "internet" can destroy good gear and sometime worship some really bad one.

    hope this will help anyone in the fence of this lens. I can see this and my PL25 my favorite primes.

    Also, one more thing before i finish, i dont know who uses this lenses, but im 31 years old, and ive read in a couple of places that the marks in the "clutch" of the lens were hard to read and way too small. really? I dont use glasses but it looks perfectly clear. No numbers, lines or colors are tricky to read. But i found that the AF speed with this lens is so fast, honestly, fast! that i dont see myself using the MF much often. :2thumbs::2thumbs:

    bottom line to me is: How much sharpness is enough?
     
  2. monk3y

    monk3y Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    May 14, 2013
    in The Cloud...
    Steven
    Totally agree with you here... I think this lens is freaking Awesome!!!

    I am pretty glad I got this as my first lens, I also own the 75mm f/1.8 and in real world use they are both perfect: in my opinion :)

    Sent from my GT-N7100 using Mu-43 mobile app
     
  3. mymy

    mymy Mu-43 Regular

    58
    Nov 23, 2012
    Malaysia
    Thank you for sharing your experience with the lens. I'm one of many people who can't deicide between 25 and 17 but now I know that I will happily shooting with this lens..
     
  4. Photodan1

    Photodan1 Mu-43 Regular

    157
    Jun 26, 2012
    Nashville, Tennessee, USA
    Dan
    I bought several months ago and I take the lions share of my images with out now. Plenty sharp!
     
  5. quatchi

    quatchi Mu-43 Veteran

    326
    May 17, 2012
    Munich, Germany
    Thanks for the post and the great images!

    I have an OT question about your post processing, though. Especially the last image with the girl: Do you tweak each of the pictures individually or do you use some kind of a preset. The 'finished' image looks great but the unprocessed one has those dull Olympus RAW colors Lightroom comes up with. It can also be seen with the strings on the shovel in the previous picture.
     
  6. Livnius

    Livnius Super Moderator

    Jul 7, 2011
    Melbourne. Australia
    Joe
    Good work Chris.....the sail boat shot is fantastic.

    It's hard NOT to like this lens, like I said in our pm's, it may not be the king of the sharpness hill, but, it is so good all-round that it's a pretty good buy if that wide-normal focal length is your thing.
     
  7. fransglans

    fransglans Mu-43 Top Veteran

    991
    Jun 12, 2012
    Sweden
    gus
    Nice images... I like your pp, not too much not too little. And I really like the bokeh of this lens, renders really nice. Maybe the biggest difference from the 17 2.8?
    And yes, Sharpness bulls**t talk has destroyed a lot of nice lenses, like my old trusty canon ef 20 2.8 sold and gone even though I loved it.
    Who really needed all that P20 sharpness?
     
  8. Chrisnmn

    Chrisnmn Mu-43 All-Pro

    Apr 26, 2012
    Auckland, New Zealand
    Chris
    Hi, yeah the way i see it is: i shoot raw, that is 70% of the job. of course i try to do as much as possible in camera. but PP for me is the other 30%. but to answer your question, Yes, I do use a personal preset that i built based on personal taste, and run it across all my images to make my work consistent. But since every image is different I do tweak them all individually to get em right.

    So both the Girl (wife) and the shovel both have the same preset but both were tweaked individually within that preset. hope that works! :drinks:

    Hey Joe! thanks for your words m8! I do like the boat shot as well!.
    Thanks for the advice on this lens! its a great lens!. will be re buying the 25 as well. i know they are close, but quite different at the same time. :drinks:
     
  9. Chrisnmn

    Chrisnmn Mu-43 All-Pro

    Apr 26, 2012
    Auckland, New Zealand
    Chris
    Exactly Gus, you get my point. Even though this lens is compared to death to the P20 (same as the P25 was about a year ago), were's all that people using their P20's. they sold it, why? because of the AF speed. It was S L O W for their terms. then its not all about sharpness, right? anyway.

    shoot what suits you. nowadays gear is more than enough for most people.
     
  10. yekimrd

    yekimrd Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jun 14, 2012
    Cincinnati, OH
    Mikey
    Excellent showing, Chris! :thumbup: Completely agree with the undeserved bashing that this lens got. I replaced my PL25 with this lens -- it was a hard decision but had no regrets. I still think the PL25 has something special to it so I concur with you owning both if you can fit them all in your camera bag. :biggrin:
     
  11. Amin Sabet

    Amin Sabet Administrator

    Apr 10, 2009
    Boston, MA (USA)
    Great shots, Chris! You make an excellent case for this lens, and I agree with your conclusions.
     
  12. Savas K

    Savas K Mu-43 Top Veteran

    784
    Jan 10, 2013
    Chris, 'ya done good. Photographer has something to do with the shots as well. :) I only hope that I can get mine to do similar when I start using it in earnest. What's the aperture in these? Handheld or on tripod?
     
  13. Chrisnmn

    Chrisnmn Mu-43 All-Pro

    Apr 26, 2012
    Auckland, New Zealand
    Chris
    Thanks Mikey! im glad you liked it. Im definitely interested in building a set of prime lenses as im going to firmly stay shooting m43. so this as an "all around" makes sense to me. Also one thing that left me wanting from what i learned of the X100s is that im a 100% 35-50mm person. eheheh. :thumbup:

    Thanks Amin!, appreciate it!. I was just trying to be realistic with this lens. theres a lot of rumors and chit-chatting around photo gear that sometimes is just nonsense. for me, this lens, is one of those nonsense ones. this lens is great!.

    Thanks Savas, I really appreciate your words. I just wanted to show that this lens can deliver, and that all the negatives you can find over the internet are simply nonsense. Thats why i posted images to prove it. "an image is worth a thousand words" or so they say right?

    To answer your questions, The aperture in these photos were all from f1.8 (the chinese man with the guitar/citar/something) up to f8 i believe in one of the buildings. All the "before and after" ones were shot at f2 i believe?.

    All photos were handheld. that why i love the OMD so much. IBIS is simply stunning.
     
  14. monk3y

    monk3y Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    May 14, 2013
    in The Cloud...
    Steven
    Yes agree again IBIS is unexpectedly very very good on the OM-D.
     
  15. DHart

    DHart Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Jan 7, 2010
    Scottsdale, Arizona
    Don
    Chris... I had written this lens off after early comments/reviews.

    Then, recently surveying the 17/1.8 image thread and your thread, here, I think I may well pick one of these puppies up for my own examination. It seems it's not a bad lens at all! It might just be the perfect "street lens"... and more. Thanks for the wonderful samples to examine.
     
  16. rich9cinti

    rich9cinti Mu-43 Veteran

    288
    Mar 23, 2013
    Cincinnati, Ohio
    Rich
    Great images! The 17 1.8 really rocks and the 16mp sensors makes this glass really shine. Just waiting for my 16mp body now :)
     
  17. pdk42

    pdk42 One of the "Eh?" team

    Jan 11, 2013
    Leamington Spa, UK
    Another fan of the 17/1.8 here. I think the Lenstip article is the main cause of the poor reputation. Shame really - I'm fairly critical of lens performance usually and I have never had any serious concerns over the 17/1.8.

    Fantastic shots BTW. I love the ship and the 3 people on the steps down by the water. Lovely composition.
     
  18. entropicremnants

    entropicremnants Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jul 16, 2012
    John Griggs
  19. F/Stop

    F/Stop Mu-43 Veteran

    451
    Mar 9, 2013
    West Virginia
    Brian Y.
    Great shots Chris! The boat is great. I agree with you completely. The 17 is on my omd ALOT. According to adobe bridge, I use the 17 more than any other lens. :)
     
  20. dav1dz

    dav1dz Mu-43 Top Veteran

    926
    Nov 6, 2012
    Canada
    I think I would be very happy with 17/1.8 as the only lens on most days. All of these look great!