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Not convinced with the 14mm f2.5

Discussion in 'Native Lenses' started by Anthon, Dec 17, 2012.

  1. Anthon

    Anthon Mu-43 Regular

    Dec 8, 2012
    Hi, I currently own an E-PM1 with 14-42 II R, P14 f2.5 and P20 f.17

    P20 is usually my walk-around lens, great sharpness, light and small for carrying with it in my pocket, and I love his DOF and FOV.

    When I want more wide or close FOV I switch to the 14-42 because of its range.

    So I hardly ever use the 14mm, the sharpness between it and the 14-42 is almost the same, it is a bit faster (f2.5 vs f3.5) but no big differences between them. I already have the P20 so the small size of the P14 isn't really important to me.

    I'm thinking of selling it and with the money buy a WCON-P01 wide converter for the 14-42 and the 15mm f8 lens cap ¿what do yo think? ¿do anyone have P14 and P20 and use both?
  2. Ulfric M Douglas

    Ulfric M Douglas Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 6, 2010
    The size is the only thing going for the 14 and the 17F2.8 : they make the camera pocketable.
    You should sell it and put the money halfway to the 45mmF1.8
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  3. Anthon

    Anthon Mu-43 Regular

    Dec 8, 2012
    I agree, but P14 and P20 are very similar in size

    At first I wanted to have P14, P20 and O45 f1.8, but I rarelly shoot portraits, that's why I prefer the wide angle adapter to turn the 14-42 into a 11mm, and the body cap lens to carry the camera in my bike's back bag

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  4. ssgreenley

    ssgreenley Mu-43 Top Veteran

    May 12, 2011
    I used the 20 & 14-42II as a two lens kit for a long time (and still occasionally do). I also felt the 14 wouldn't add much and bought the Oly 12. It quickly became my favorite lens. Anyway, if you have the $, that might be worth looking into.
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  5. gsk3

    gsk3 Mu-43 Regular

    Jan 29, 2012
    There's your answer. Sell it.

    I love mine, but that's because I use moderate wide angles like most people use 50's...it's my always-on lens.
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  6. RevBob

    RevBob Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Jun 4, 2011
    NorthWestern PA
    I have the 14 and use it as my pancake lens. I traded my 20 for a 7.5 after I bought the Lumix 25. That gives me a nice range of primes:7.5, 14, 25, and 45. I only keep the kit lens for video.
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  7. drd1135

    drd1135 Zen Snapshooter

    Mar 17, 2011
    Southwest Virginia
    I've gotten used to the 14 FOV since I got the E-PM1 and have come to appreciate it for "crowded" areas where I can get close. I just don't like the kit zoom too much, so i end up carrying the 14 and the 45. In between I walk a bit. ;-)
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  8. littleMT

    littleMT Mu-43 All-Pro

    Apr 8, 2012
    Lucille Sanchez
    I own the 14mm and 20mm, the 14mm is probably my favorite lens, even more then my pl25mm f/1.4.

    My best shots and most fun have come with my 14mm, which is my goto dayshot lens, the 20mm is my goto nightshot lens..
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  9. littleMT

    littleMT Mu-43 All-Pro

    Apr 8, 2012
    Lucille Sanchez
    some 14mm magic:

    E-PL1    ---    14mm    f/2.8    1/1000s    ISO 200

    E-PL1    ---    14mm    f/3.2    1/800s    ISO 200

    E-PL1    ---    14mm    f/2.5    1/40s    ISO 500

    E-PL1    ---    14mm    f/2.5    1/15s    ISO 200

    if i didn't mention it, i love my 14mm, and it would be the very last lens I ever let go. more 14mm for me..
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  10. Jonathan F/2

    Jonathan F/2 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 10, 2011
    Los Angeles, USA
    If you don't like the 14 get rid of it. Everyone loves the 20, but I've owned it 4 times and still don't like it! Invest your money in focal lengths that work for you.
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  11. Anthon

    Anthon Mu-43 Regular

    Dec 8, 2012
    I'll try shooting at 45mm to see if it's worth to trade the P20 for a 45mm f1.8
  12. arentol

    arentol Mu-43 Veteran

    Jun 29, 2012
    If it's not for you then it's not for you. I would sell it and get something else. Perhaps the 7-14, which is a great complement to the 14-42.
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  13. flipmack

    flipmack Mu-43 Veteran

    Mar 23, 2012
    irvine, CA
    I traded my 14/2.5 for the Sigma 19/2.8. It was a good move for me. The 14 was just a bit too wide for a normal view and my Sigma 30/2.8 was just a bit too narrow. The Sigma 19/2.8 works quite nicely.

    I now own a pretty complete kit:

    Sigma 19/2.8 (wide normal)
    Sigma 30/2.8 (narrow normal)
    Olympus 40-150/4-5.6 R
    Olympus 35/3.5 macro (using MMF-1)

    With my EPM1, all of this fits in my Crumpler 3MDH bag!
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  14. spinyman

    spinyman Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Nov 19, 2010
    San Diego
    What she said.
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  15. Fmrvette

    Fmrvette This Space For Rent

    May 26, 2012
    Detroit, Michigan
    Hi Lucille.

    Really nice shots, but may I make a suggestion? On the group photos they really work better if you're in front of the group and have everyone look into the lens.


    With tongue firmly in cheek, regards


    (To the OP - Yep, I have the 14 and 20 and use 'em both, depending on subject and room. Sometimes there just ain't any more room to back up and the 14 makes the shot possible. I own zooms but pretty much use primes these days. But if your 14 ain't bein' used, send it off to a new home and get yourself something you will enjoy).
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  16. drd1135

    drd1135 Zen Snapshooter

    Mar 17, 2011
    Southwest Virginia
    You might want to check your EXIF data for shots where you used the 14-42 and see how much you used the 14 end. It just may not be an FL you like.
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  17. Steven

    Steven Mu-43 All-Pro

    May 25, 2012
    Yes, if you don't care for its tiny size then maybe you don't need it. I use it sometimes when I need something really small to put into coat pocket. Every mm counts then :) 
    I also feel that it is more sturdy then the 20 mm because of its construction. The 20 I am always afraid to bump into something with its front which is part of moving mechanism.the 14 I can just leave hanging around my neck, behind me bandoleer style without too much care.

    When travelling and heading out in the evening sometimes I would just have the 14mm with me which is better for wider angle architectural photos than 20. And vs the 14-42- in the night every little bit of light helps.
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  18. littleMT

    littleMT Mu-43 All-Pro

    Apr 8, 2012
    Lucille Sanchez
    I wasn't the main shooter on that one, I snook in a shot.

    This was the main shot, and it was shot with the Omd and 12-50mm.

    E-M5    ---    13mm    f/3.6    1/4s    ISO 200
  19. thomastaesu

    thomastaesu Mu-43 Regular

    Nov 16, 2012
    ATL, GA
    Wow, thanks for the advise! That's what was missing from my group shots!
  20. jyc860923

    jyc860923 Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Feb 28, 2012
    Shenyang, China
    Sold my p14

    the centre sharpness is better than 14-42, but it gets really worse on the border imo, haven't felt the magic with p14
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