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Next lens...40-150mm 2.8 pro or 75mm????

Discussion in 'Olympus Cameras' started by Ehoeft, Mar 12, 2015.

  1. Ehoeft

    Ehoeft Mu-43 Rookie

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    Mar 10, 2015
    I've been back and forth on these two lenses for my next purchase. A bit of my backround... I purchased an EM1 about 5 months ago when my first daughter was born along with the 12-40mm and 45mm. 90% of my pictures are of her. I know eventually I will get the 40-150 for the extra reach but I wanted to know if I'd be missing anything if I used the 40-150 for portraits over the 75mm prime. Size is not a factor in the decision.
    Thanks!
     
  2. pdk42

    pdk42 One of the "Eh?" team

    Jan 11, 2013
    Leamington Spa, UK
    The 40-150 will work fine for portraits, but it's a bit big - too big for my taste. Personally, I love the 75 - it's small, great IQ and beautifully made.
     
  3. Klorenzo

    Klorenzo Mu-43 All-Pro

    Mar 10, 2014
    Lorenzo
    Considering that you already have the 45 I'd go for the big one, overall quality should be on par with the 75.
    The potential advantages of the 75, faster a little more blur, are not worth the versatility, especially in a few months. If you want to play with the ultimate blur zoom in a little and you'll have more then the 75. You can check out pictures from the 60/2.8, Oly or sigma, if this is your concern.
     
  4. SpecFoto

    SpecFoto Mu-43 Veteran

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    Aug 28, 2012
    So Cal
    Jim
    I have had the 75mm for 2-1/2 years and it is a fantastic M4/3 lens, you cannot go wrong with it. The 1-1/3 stop advantage it has over the 40-150 is worthwhile, plus it is quite a bit smaller, lighter and about 1/2 the price if you buy a refurbished model. But you have to learn to use a prime for portrait work, especially with children, which is not as forgiving as a zoom. For my portrait work I use the M. Zuiko 12-40 Pro, P/Leica 42.5 f/1.2 and Oly 75mm.

    While you say size is not an issue in the decision, do you have a grip for your E-M5? Having both the E-M1 and E-M5, I would not want to use the 12-40 or the 40-150 on the E-M5 without at least an added horizontal grip. But you can't buy just the horizontal part like you can with the new E-M5 II, at least not from Olympus.

    One other thing to keep in mind is that Oly updated the E-M1 firmware and the new E-M5 II to work specifically with the AF on 40-150mm. They did not, unfortunately, provide a firmware update for the E-M5. Not saying the AF will be bad, as I don't know, but more than a few E-M1 owners have commented how the AF improved after the firmware update.
     
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  5. curtisls87

    curtisls87 Mu-43 Regular

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    Jan 7, 2010
    Los Gatos, CA, USA
    Curt Schimmels
    I own both lenses, having recently purchased the 40-150mm (and also the 45mm).

    In my view, these lenses all serve a different purpose. I have grand-twins that are 1 1/2 years old, now, and when they were very small, I usually used the 45mm for indoor work - sometimes the 75mm when I wanted that next degree of quality. That was all mainly indoor photography, where light is at a premium and because the kids were small and not moving around, those worked well. Now, I shoot a bunch more "motion" shots, because they're constantly on the go. I like the 40-150mm for this, because it allows for greater latitude in focal length.
     
  6. Ehoeft

    Ehoeft Mu-43 Rookie

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    Mar 10, 2015
    Yes I do have the EM1 and have updated the firmware ready. I do plan on buying the grip for the EM1.
    I just found the image thread for the 40-150 and I think it produces great images with enough DOF where I'm debating if I need the 75mm after all. Just get the 40-150 and call it a day.... But still not sure. From all the reviews the 75 is excellent glass
     
  7. SpecFoto

    SpecFoto Mu-43 Veteran

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    Aug 28, 2012
    So Cal
    Jim
    Opps, I read you had the E-M5, not E-M1. Must have been the "E-M1 5 months ago" that tricked me. You can't go wrong with either lens.

    I plan on adding the 40-150mm in a few months, just hoping the price is going to drop a bit.
     
  8. DigitalD

    DigitalD Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Jan 10, 2014
    Miami
    David
    This must be the most asked question since the 40-150 Pro came out and rightly so. Typically the ideal portrait FL is about 180-200mm at f2.8. It give the most clarity in the face with the most drastic subject isolation. So in MFT terms that would be 100mm at @1.4 (to mimic FF DOF) Though at 2.8 it would be close enough. But Curtis87 makes a good point. Primes are a little difficult to use with moving kids. Though not nearly impossible if you are comfortable moving around. I don't mind using primes and moving.

    I think in "real world use" both lenses will perform pretty darn close at 75mm @ f2.8 so I wouldn't worry about any loss in IQ.

    Where the 75mm shines will be in those low light hours. The sun setting, and getting that 1.5 stops of light to keep your ISO low will result in oh so creamy, beautiful shots. niiiice..... plus the size is very unassuming for candids.

    For me however, the 40-150 would rarely see the light of day as it goes against the whole reason why I have a MFT camera in the first place. The 12-40 pro and the Noc 42.5 are my limit :p The 75mm is literally next on my list as soon as funds free up. If they made a 100 f1.8 prime at roughly the same size I would want that as well. For now I use the Canon FD 100 f2 when I want more reach then the Nocticron.
     
  9. zulfur666

    zulfur666 Mu-43 Veteran

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    Jan 30, 2014
    why not makes this post a poll? But to answer your question, the 45 prime is actually better suited for portraits. I think you be better off placing your $/€/(£ towards the 40-150 f/2.8 .... plus the 40-150 2.8 handles REAL NICE on the E-M1
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  10. Speedliner

    Speedliner Mu-43 All-Pro

    Mar 2, 2015
    Southern NJ, USA
    Rob
    I don't have the 75mm yet, but will eventually. Here is why. In my limited experience with the O-MD so far, I have learned that light is a premium. I spent the winter trying to shoot my 8-yr old's basketball games. The 12-40Pro was too short to get good shots. The 45mm still a little short, but usable. The 40-150 f4-5.6 is a little dark for most of those shots. The 75mm would have been perfect.

    The 40-150 f4-5.6 is a great lens and ridiculously cheap. I have used it recently for my 12-yr old's lacross games and it works fine outdoors. Focus is lightning quick.

    Also, I just got th Zuiko 50-200 SWD for about 1/3rd the price of the 40-150 Pro and it is brilliant. It will be my wildlife lens and maybe outdoor sports as well when I need the extra reach. It's fractionally larger/heavier than the Pro. Focus has been accurate and seems fast enough though I haven't tested it with fast action yet.

    So my point to consider is that for less than the price of the 40-150 Pro, you can have the fast 75 and the 40-150 f4-5.6. That may be all that you ever need. Add in the 50-200 SWD and you have long, sharp and brilliant as well, all for about the price of the 40-150 Pro.

    This option gives you that light 40-150 option too when you want it. The 200mm reach when you need it and don't mind carrying two pounds around.

    This is my plan....75mm next and then I can lust after the 300mm Pro. :)

    FWIW, I've always been a zoom guy, but I'm finding the Oly primes easy to work with and the faster speed and great IQ really a joy to use.

    Enjoy the hunt and I hope you hit the lottery someday.
     
  11. Ehoeft

    Ehoeft Mu-43 Rookie

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    Mar 10, 2015
    Thank you all for the responses. I do see a benefit in both lenses. Just need to decide what I should get first as they both are not cheap. It would probably be another year before I could swing getting the second. Right now the 12-40 is my workhorse even through the 45 is sharper. The zoom is just so versatile that's why I'm leaning towards the 40-150.
     
  12. zulfur666

    zulfur666 Mu-43 Veteran

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    Jan 30, 2014
    Agree with a lot of you points here.... but the 40-150 2.8 and MC-14 extender will get you the same reach at f/4 and better IQ plus FASTER AF. I had the 50-200 SWD wasn't that impressed.
    Plus the 50-200 SWD weighs more and is larger (extended) than the new 40-150 2.8 and MC-14 combined
    JMO
     
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  13. maritan

    maritan Mu-43 Veteran

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    Oct 30, 2014
    I have both, and for portraits, I'd probably go with the 75mm. There's just something about the way it renders that cannot be replicated by the 40-150 pro IMO.
     
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  14. marlof

    marlof Mu-43 Regular

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    Jun 18, 2010
    The Netherlands
    I have both. The 40-150 PRO impresses me for several different subjects, and portrait is one of the them. But I find that people respond different to a camera with a large telezoom pointed at them, than with the smallish 75. More people are at ease with the latter. Next it delivers great results, even wide open. But if you need a lens for more than just portraits the 40-150 PRO is a great lens.
     
  15. davidzvi

    davidzvi Mu-43 All-Pro

    Aug 12, 2012
    Outside Boston MA
    David
    If your daughter is 5-6 months old do you need the 100-150mm range?

    You're looking at the 40-150, so I'll assume it's within your price range. For that price you could have (used) both the 75 AND the 35-100 f/2.8 Panasonic. The 35-100 is a much smaller and less intimating/distracting for little kids. Sure at some point you may want/need the extra reach, but that might be years. Then you could sell the 35-100, keep the 75 and get what ever is out then.
     
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  16. Speedliner

    Speedliner Mu-43 All-Pro

    Mar 2, 2015
    Southern NJ, USA
    Rob
    Davidzi's advice is good too. For the immediate future you're not going to let that little girl get more than 100mm range away :)

    I want the pro too, but at this moment you can still get refurbed Oly non-pro 40-150 for $119. $119!!!! Get the 75 and a less expensive zoom. You'll likely get more use out of the 75 and 45 than you will the big Pro for awhile. Unless you're intending to use it for sports and wildlife. But the non-pro will likely hold you over until that little girl gets bigger.
     
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  17. DigitalD

    DigitalD Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Jan 10, 2014
    Miami
    David
    I like this suggestion too. And isn't the 35-100 weather resistant as well?
     
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  18. davidzvi

    davidzvi Mu-43 All-Pro

    Aug 12, 2012
    Outside Boston MA
    David
    Yes it is.