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New to m4/3. Have a few questions.

Discussion in 'Olympus Cameras' started by Zancrow, Jul 16, 2014.

  1. Zancrow

    Zancrow Mu-43 Regular

    148
    Jul 16, 2014
    Hello everyone I finally decided and went the m4/3 way and got myself an Olympus Em1 and a Panny 25mm f/1.4. I'm relatively new to his system, so far I enjoy the size of this system, evf, fast AF and looking forward to getting an Olympus 12-40 f/2.8 later.
    I been shooting with a Canon DSLR the last 4 years and I had a few questions that I was hoping you can help me with.

    1. I read that the em1 can use original 4/3 lenses without the need for an adaptor. is this true?

    2. What I some 4/3 lenses that you would recommend? Been looking to shooting more MF. I mostly like to shoot portraits (fully body, mid, close up)

    3. I have a couple Canon flashes from my previous system. What wireless triggers do you use that can work with the camera and flashes?


    Thanks again (if this is in the wrong section, please feel free to move it)
     
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  2. OzRay

    OzRay Mu-43 Legend

    Jan 29, 2010
    South Gippsland, Australia
    Ray, not Oz
    - You need an adapter if you want to use 4/3 lenses. I'd recommend the MMF-3, as it's weathersealed.

    - All the 4/3 High Grade and Super High Grade lenses are excellent: http://www.four-thirds.org/en/fourthirds/lense.html.

    - Any wireless trigger that's Canon compatible should work. The Olympus hot shoe is much the same as the Canon one, bar one terminal (I've used a Canon off-camera hot shoe for years). But you won't get full compatibility, mainly manual firing of the Canon flash units, as far as I'm aware.
     
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  3. pdk42

    pdk42 One of the "Eh?" team

    Jan 11, 2013
    Leamington Spa, UK
    No - you need an adapter. 4/3 lenses have a longer rear register distance and a different electrical coupling.

    Do you mean 4/3 or u43? 4/3 lenses are pretty large on u43 bodies IMHO. If you're new to the system it doesn't make a lot of sense buying older 4/3 lenses.

    I'm not 100% sure, but I think you'll need to use optical triggers. I do that with some old Sigma Canon-compatible flashes and it works fine.
     
  4. OzRay

    OzRay Mu-43 Legend

    Jan 29, 2010
    South Gippsland, Australia
    Ray, not Oz
    It makes lots of sense to buy 4/3 lenses. They are extremely good quality, mostly weathersealed, work as well as m4/3 lenses, excellent range to choose from and can be often purchased for less than m4/3 lenses. Once again I say that not everyone is after tiny camera bodies and lenses, there is a place for both in the m4/3 system.
     
  5. Zancrow

    Zancrow Mu-43 Regular

    148
    Jul 16, 2014
    Thanks for the help guys, I guess I should re-word question #2: I'm looking for lenses that can adapt to the em1 for portraits, I don't mind that they are MF (I'm actually trying to get better at MF) they don't necessarily have to be 4/3 just as long as they don't break the bank. Sorry for any confusion
     
  6. OzRay

    OzRay Mu-43 Legend

    Jan 29, 2010
    South Gippsland, Australia
    Ray, not Oz
    In that case, you can consider just about any lens ever made for what you want. You will need an adapter in all cases, and I'd suggest that you buy a high quality one like Voigtlander, Novoflex or the like, rather than the cheapest Chinese ones. I would also consider high quality lenses and do research to find out which ones are good, before buying. There are lots available on eBay.
     
  7. spatulaboy

    spatulaboy I'm not really here

    Jul 13, 2011
    North Carolina
    Vin
    If you are serious about portraits why not get the many excellent native m4/3 lenses available?
     
  8. T N Args

    T N Args Agent Photocateur

    Dec 3, 2013
    Adelaide, Australia
    call me Arg
    You already have the Leica DG 25mm, excellent for portraits.

    In the 40-50 mm range, I can't imagine an MF-adapter combo that's going to beat the µ4/3 Olympus 45mm f/1.8 for price and performance, why bother?
     
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  9. jerrykur

    jerrykur Mu-43 Regular

    81
    Aug 23, 2012
    Northern CA
    Take a look at the only 45.

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using Mu-43 mobile app
     
  10. bikerhiker

    bikerhiker Mu-43 All-Pro

    Dec 24, 2013
    Canada
    David
    Does it really makes sense to get 4/3 lenses when you already have a Panny 25mm f/1.4 and soon to be 12-40 f/2.8? You can do manual focus with m/43 lenses just as effective as 4/3 lenses. You don't need to get a 4/3 lens to shoot more MF. You may look at shooting with an adapted lens that's fully manual focus. But then, here's the problem. You will have 2 m/43 lenses that are super sharp and are good enough for portraits unless you're looking for extreme shallow depth of field. I say wait till you can afford a 12-40 and that would help solve your problems. In the meantime, what's stopping you in doing portraits with the 25mm f/1.4 Panny and if you want a 50mm f/1.4 for closeups, just engage the digital teleconverter option on your E-M1 just to get by until you can afford the 12-40.
     
  11. rstrader

    rstrader Mu-43 Regular

    96
    Apr 12, 2012
    Colorado Springs
    Considering you like to do portraits, I would have to say the PL45mm f1.2 Nocticron should be at the top of your list, if you can stand the toll. This is arguably the best lens in the m4/3 world. This and the Oly 75mm are two of the sharpest lenses I've ever used.
     
  12. Zancrow

    Zancrow Mu-43 Regular

    148
    Jul 16, 2014
    Thanks for the responses so far guys. The reason why I been asking about adapted lenses is mainly my budget. I won't be able to purchase the 12-40 for a while (probably until early next year) and I was trying to find lenses that would of been cheaper for portraits. Leica 25mm is a great lens, just looking at what are some options for the future as far as lenses go.
     
  13. T N Args

    T N Args Agent Photocateur

    Dec 3, 2013
    Adelaide, Australia
    call me Arg
    In case you missed it. :thumbup:
     
  14. val

    val Mu-43 Top Veteran

    548
    Dec 19, 2013
    Australia
    William
    the 25mm is one sweet lens, I use it most of the time unless I'm doing a wide shot.

    I can't really decide for you, the 12-40mm would be a good choice but if you rather buy another prime then yeah the 45mm f1.8 or 75mm f1.8.
     
  15. pdk42

    pdk42 One of the "Eh?" team

    Jan 11, 2013
    Leamington Spa, UK
    The 45/1.8 is a stunning lens; small, light, excellent AF (and MF if needed), superb IQ, plenty shallow enough DOF for portraits, EXIF info on all shots, ... and best of all it's pretty cheap. I really can't see the point of buying legacy lenses in this focal length (4/3 or otherwise) unless budget is really low (but why then buy an E-M1?) or you have specialised needs (tilt & shift for instance).
     
  16. OzRay

    OzRay Mu-43 Legend

    Jan 29, 2010
    South Gippsland, Australia
    Ray, not Oz
    The 45mm f1.8 is silver, it looks like a wart on the E-M1. ;)
     
  17. T N Args

    T N Args Agent Photocateur

    Dec 3, 2013
    Adelaide, Australia
    call me Arg
    Silver... or Black!

    olympus-zuiko-black-45mm-f1.8_b.
     
  18. OzRay

    OzRay Mu-43 Legend

    Jan 29, 2010
    South Gippsland, Australia
    Ray, not Oz
    Wasn't the black a special edition?
     
  19. Markb

    Markb Mu-43 Top Veteran

    532
    Jun 9, 2011
    Kent, UK
    Mark
    No the black's standard now. The black 12mm was a special run at almost twice the price but not the 45. My Olympus pusher charges £10 extra for the black lens new.
     
  20. pdk42

    pdk42 One of the "Eh?" team

    Jan 11, 2013
    Leamington Spa, UK
    I sold my silver 45 and bought a black one. Cost me £15 on the trade, but I agree with OzRay - the silver doesn't look good on the E-M1 (or the E-M5). The metal lenses (12, 17) look great in silver though - I think it's the faux silver paint that makes the plastic lenses in silver look a bit cheap.