As you may have already read... not trying to feed a rumour mill but, could it be a new combo for a new camera (GF2??). Personally I would like a wide angle prime instead though.
True Brian and I have to agree about the 9-18mm (it's the only one of the two new Oly lenses that I have) that it is excellent...so much so that well... I digress.
A micro 4/3rds 25/1.4 might be handy for some, as would any fast prime, like 38/1.2 etc. We all have our wants.
I recently bought a Pany/Leica D 25/1.4 adapted into the format, from its native 4/3rds. Helluva thing. Big, and heavy. And brilliant.
This discussion tends to make me wonder if Panasonic are considering abandoning 4/3rds entirely. Are they still producing the Leica D series 4/3 lenses? They are very, very good. And, they don't get much play on this forum, against the backdrop chatter of legacy glass etc.
I recently bought a Pany/Leica D 25/1.4 adapted into the format, from its native 4/3rds. Helluva thing. Big, and heavy. And brilliant.
This discussion tends to make me wonder if Panasonic are considering abandoning 4/3rds entirely. Are they still producing the Leica D series 4/3 lenses? They are very, very good.
If the rumours are true I would think its an obvious move for Panasonic. These lenses are still available, but whether they are still making them I wouldn't know. I presume it would be relatively easy to just change the mount & they could have the lens out while working on some other fast primes. If the rumours are true and they are responding to the general desire for this type of lens, then that is very encouraging.
Like you I would wonder about their commitment to 4/3 as it seems obvious that they are putting all their energies into m4/3. Indeed the future of 4/3 in general may hinge on what Olympus do next. They obviously have a huge lens lineup to "find a home for" and the rumours about their "modular camera" are intriguing and exciting. I'd be very interested in a camera that let me use both 4/3 and m4/3 lenses, particularly If they can keep it relatively light and small but still have options for battery grips, video, interchangeable finders etc.
The D series lenses are still available. I've had a 14-50mm f2.8-3.5 for a while and have just bought the 14-150mm zoom. I posted a thread on it here:- https://www.mu-43.com/f40/my-new-best-friend-4127/
I would have thought these are a little large for changing to m4/3 mount, but who knows? They are certainly superb lenses.
If the rumours are true I would think its an obvious move for Panasonic. These lenses are still available, but whether they are still making them I wouldn't know. I presume it would be relatively easy to just change the mount & they could have the lens out while working on some other fast primes. If the rumours are true and they are responding to the general desire for this type of lens, then that is very encouraging.
Like you I would wonder about their commitment to 4/3 as it seems obvious that they are putting all their energies into m4/3. Indeed the future of 4/3 in general may hinge on what Olympus do next. They obviously have a huge lens lineup to "find a home for" and the rumours about their "modular camera" are intriguing and exciting. I'd be very interested in a camera that let me use both 4/3 and m4/3 lenses, particularly If they can keep it relatively light and small but still have options for battery grips, video, interchangeable finders etc.
The D series lenses are still available. I've had a 14-50mm f2.8-3.5 for a while and have just bought the 14-150mm zoom. I posted a thread on it here:- https://www.mu-43.com/f40/my-new-best-friend-4127/
I would have thought these are a little large for changing to m4/3 mount, but who knows? They are certainly superb lenses.
My understanding is that the four-thirds lenses aren't dramatically smaller than the full-size lenses for two reasons:
1) (self-inflicted) The fact that the four-thirds standard called for parallel light rays hitting the sensor, to improve digital image capture, and
2) (simple geometry) The flange depth is as important to the overall lens size (amount of glass, distance from camera, etc) as the size of the sensor.
With the micro four-thirds format, the second issue is basically resolved by creating a new flange depth that is proportionate to the smaller sensor size. That's why our new lenses can have much less glass, and be much lighter than the equivalent full frame lenses.
The original Leica D lenses were hampered by having to fit the deeper four-thirds bodies. One strategy would be simply to make them longer, effectively adding in the adapter to the length of the lens. What I hope they do, instead, is to scale down the entire lens design to match the new sensor/flange depth geometry, which would result in a really small lens, even if it has a very large maximum aperture.
My understanding is that the four-thirds lenses aren't dramatically smaller than the full-size lenses for two reasons:
1) (self-inflicted) The fact that the four-thirds standard called for parallel light rays hitting the sensor, to improve digital image capture, and
2) (simple geometry) The flange depth is as important to the overall lens size (amount of glass, distance from camera, etc) as the size of the sensor.
With the micro four-thirds format, the second issue is basically resolved by creating a new flange depth that is proportionate to the smaller sensor size. That's why our new lenses can have much less glass, and be much lighter than the equivalent full frame lenses.
The original Leica D lenses were hampered by having to fit the deeper four-thirds bodies. One strategy would be simply to make them longer, effectively adding in the adapter to the length of the lens. What I hope they do, instead, is to scale down the entire lens design to match the new sensor/flange depth geometry, which would result in a really small lens, even if it has a very large maximum aperture.
I would expect the 25/1.4 will be smaller it probably will have focus by wire and OIS but not for certain it may be ommited in the interests of compactness and lower cost.
If this is a joint effort with Leica and its a summilux lens configuration then center sharpness at f1.4 could be amazing.
Looking forward to this lens for me its high on my list.
"We are almost certain that Panasonic is working on very fast new primes (faster than f/1.4). The first prime is expected to be on market by end 2010 early 2011"
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As you may have already read... not trying to feed a rumour mill but, could it be a new combo for a new camera (GF2??). Personally I would like a wide angle prime instead though.
As you may have already read... not trying to feed a rumour mill but, could it be a new combo for a new camera (GF2??). Personally I would like a wide angle prime instead though.
+1
I'd like a :43: 12mm f/2 as 2nd prime, (to complement the :43: 17mm), not a zoom that covers it. But, I'd could afford a :43: 12mm f/2.8 or f/3.5 most likely.
I would rather have all primes for my G1 also.
I like wides better for smaller cameras. and save the larger FL for the DSLR.
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I'd like a :43: 12mm f/2 as 2nd prime, (to complement the :43: 17mm), not a zoom that covers it. But, I'd could afford a :43: 12mm f/2.8 or f/3.5 most likely.
I would rather have all primes for my G1 also.
I like wides better for smaller cameras. and save the larger FL for the DSLR.
i will definitely buy a fixed 1.4 that autofocuses on my GF1 and is reasonably small. The speed difference between the pancake 1.7 and the nikon 50 1.4 (i put on with a converter) is useful to me, even though you might not think it would matter. I'm doing hand-held shootingt with indoor lighting at board games parties, etc. But the lack of autofocus is rough with a fast lens, so I need a real mft design.
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