New Panasonic II lenses - are changes just cosmetic?

Discussion in 'Micro 4/3 News and Rumors' started by Holoholo55, Jan 4, 2017.

  1. Holoholo55

    Holoholo55 Mu-43 All-Pro Subscribing Member

    Aug 13, 2014
    Honolulu, HI
    Walter
    My friend and I looked at this posting on 43rumors.com and it looks like the changes are primarily cosmetic. Especially when he compared his Panasonic 45-200 to the photo of the 45-200 II. Looks almost identical except for cosmetics. Anybody know if there any significant improvements?

    (FT5) First images of the new II lens version – 43 Rumors
     
  2. Turbofrog

    Turbofrog Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 21, 2014
    Panasonic updates four lenses, improving autofocus and image stabilization

    Nope!

    Looks like they updated everything except the optics - improved autofocus, improved aperture mechanism (i.e. hopefully no more burst shooting hangups with the 100-300), improved image stabilization, and now they are all weather-sealed as well! And even the optics might be improved with new coatings.

    I'm really impressed at how thorough the changes are, actually, considering everything is getting released all at once. Really good news for mid-range shooters.
     
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  3. Holoholo55

    Holoholo55 Mu-43 All-Pro Subscribing Member

    Aug 13, 2014
    Honolulu, HI
    Walter
    More info from Panasonic website. Looks like weathersealing added and new focus motors. No optical changes highlighted.

    overview
    NEW! LUMIX G VARIO Lens, 45-200mm, F4.0-5.6 II, Mirrorless Micro Four Thirds Mount, POWER Optical I.S. - H-FSA45200
    Details LUMIX G VARIO Lens, 45-200mm - H-FSA45200 - Panasonic US
    H-FSA45200
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    Features
    • Updated Panasonic LUMIX 45-200mm zoom lens replaces H-FS045200.
    • 70-100mm F4.0-5.6 (3 UED)
    • Upgraded support for harsh weather conditions (Splashproof / Dustproof).
    • Panasonic POWER O.I.S. compatible with LUMIX Dual I.S. 2.0 LUMIX Mirrorless cameras.
    • Faster focus tracking via a 240 fps linear motor. (what does fps mean here? feet per second?)
    $449.99


    Pre-Order

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    Estimated Ship Date: February

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    Not sure what changed here.

    NEW! LUMIX G X VARIO Professional Lens, 12-35mm, F2.8 II ASPH., Mirrorless Micro Four Thirds Mount, POWER Optical I.S. - H-HSA12035
    Details LUMIX G X VARIO Professional Lens, 12-35mm - H-HSA12035 - Panasonic US
    H-HSA12035
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    Features
    • Professional high-quality X Series optics with Panasonic’s Nano Surface Coating. (4 ASPH / 1 UED / 1 UHR)
    • 3X Optical 24-70mm F2.8 Constant Aperture.
    • Durability metal body for various weather conditions (Splashproof / Dustproof / Freezeproof).
    • Panasonic POWER O.I.S. compatible with LUMIX Dual I.S. 2.0 LUMIX Mirrorless cameras.
    • Fast focus tracking via a 240 fps linear motor.
    $999.99
    Pre-Order

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    Estimated Ship Date: March
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    NEW! LUMIX G X VARIO Professional Lens, 35-100mm, F2.8 II ASPH., Mirrorless Micro Four Thirds Mount, POWER Optical I.S. - H-HSA35100
    Details LUMIX G X VARIO Professional Lens, 35-100mm - H-HSA35100 - Panasonic US
    H-HSA35100
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    Features
    • Professional high-quality X Series optics with Panasonic’s Nano Surface Coating. (2 ED / 1 UED)
    • 2.86X Optical 70-100mm F2.8 Constant Aperture.
    • Durability metal body for various weather conditions (Splashproof / Dustproof / Freezeproof).
    • Panasonic POWER O.I.S. compatible with LUMIX Dual I.S. 2.0 LUMIX Mirrorless cameras.
    • Fast focus tracking via a 240 fps linear motor.
    $1,099.99
    Pre-Order

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    Estimated Ship Date: March
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    NEW! LUMIX G VARIO Lens, 100-300mm, F4.0-5.6 II, Mirrorless Micro Four Thirds Mount, POWER Optical I.S. - H-FSA100300
    Details LUMIX G VARIO Lens, 100-300mm - H-FSA100300 - Panasonic US
    H-FSA100300
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    Features
    • Updated Panasonic LUMIX 100-300mm zoom lens replaces H-FS100300.
    • 100-300mm F4.0-5.6 (1 ED)
    • Upgraded support for harsh weather conditions (Splashproof / Dustproof).
    • Panasonic POWER O.I.S. compatible with LUMIX Dual I.S. 2.0 LUMIX Mirrorless cameras.
    • Faster focus tracking via a 240 fps linear motor.
    $649.99


    Pre-Order

    /
    Estimated Ship Date: February
     
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  4. nstelemark

    nstelemark Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    May 28, 2013
    Halifax, Nova Scotia Canada
    Larry
    It looks like they have moved to PowerOIS across the board to allow dualIS.
     
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  5. nstelemark

    nstelemark Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    May 28, 2013
    Halifax, Nova Scotia Canada
    Larry
    This is a fairly significant change:
    • Fast focus tracking via a 240 fps linear motor.
     
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  6. Hypilein

    Hypilein Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Mar 18, 2015
    I'm impressed. They even added weather sealing. Looks like I won't need a 100-400.
     
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  7. WT21

    WT21 Mu-43 Legend Subscribing Member

    Feb 19, 2010
    Boston
    As I stated in another thread, I like this release, because it is likely the lenses on the market will see a price drop. If the 100-300 mk1 reaches $250, I might have to get one again!
     
  8. ijm5012

    ijm5012 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Oct 2, 2013
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Ian
    Whoa, the 100-300 is now weather sealed, and should be capable of delivering fast burst shooting when using C-AF. At $650, it certainly seems like a steal and has me VERY interested.
     
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  9. Turbofrog

    Turbofrog Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 21, 2014
    Yep. It looks like it's addressed all of its disadvantages against the Olympus 75-300, and now has the faster aperture and weather-sealing as bonus. Looks like very good value now.

    Hopefully sample variation is a bit better on this new lens, or the revised coatings are able to improve things optically a bit.
     
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  10. DanS

    DanS Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Mar 8, 2016
    Central IL
    I Just finished reading through the CES press release kit, tand saw the following.
    CES 2017 Press Kit

    and they did a crap ton of upgrades. I bolded what i thought was important, including the prices, that don't look that bad.

     
  11. Holoholo55

    Holoholo55 Mu-43 All-Pro Subscribing Member

    Aug 13, 2014
    Honolulu, HI
    Walter
    Well, in my experience, the old Pana 45-200 wasn't much good wider than f8. I used it quite a bit shooting kids soccer games, which I shot at f8 anyway, but it felt like half the aperture range wasn't usable. That's why I replaced it with a Zuiko ED 50-200 SWD. The weathersealing and improved AF and IS are welcome upgrades, but I was hoping for a bit more. I guess they didn't want to make big optical changes when they have a line of Leica lenses coming out in similar ranges, so as not to cannibalize those sales.

    Compared the specs of the old 45-200 and the 45-200 II. Both 16 elements in 13 groups. Aside from improved coatings, probably no optical changes.
     
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  12. Hypilein

    Hypilein Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Mar 18, 2015
    The 45-200 certainly doesn't seem that appealing still, but the 100-300 sounds amazing now. I know that loads of people say that it's not the sharpest lens of all time, but 600mm equiv is difficult and I've seen some stellar shots with it. My parents have one, and sharpness is not the issue. It's motion blur and getting the things in focus. Improving the OIS and focus unit makes this a really impressive budget super tele.
     
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  13. Repp

    Repp Mu-43 Top Veteran Subscribing Member

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    Considering the current 2.8 zooms are compatible with Dual IS, I wonder what advantage the Dual I.S.2 will make.
     
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  14. DanS

    DanS Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Mar 8, 2016
    Central IL
    I still bet they tweaked the optics a little, as i doubt the IS guts where a 1 to 1 swap.
     
  15. Holoholo55

    Holoholo55 Mu-43 All-Pro Subscribing Member

    Aug 13, 2014
    Honolulu, HI
    Walter
    Dunno, a change to the IS mechanism does not guarantee a change to the glass. Panasonic didn't say. If they had, I bet they would have said something.
     
  16. DanS

    DanS Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Mar 8, 2016
    Central IL
    hopefully one of the lens test sites will get a new one and let us know.
     
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  17. ijm5012

    ijm5012 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Oct 2, 2013
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Ian
    Couldn't agree more. I owned a 100-300 previously, but between the build quality, lack of weather sealing, older OIS, and slow aperture mechanism that limited its usefulness for C-AF shooting, I sold it and bought a 50-200 SWD + 1.4x TC. It addressed all of my issues with the 100-300.

    However, it now seems that the 100-300 II has addressed all previous complaints (hopefully they've fixed the "sticky" zoom action). I definitely plan on renting one and putting it through its paces at an autorace this summer, and will likely compare it to the 50-200 SWD to see how well it performs. I've only purchased a few lenses brand new in the past, but if the lens performs as expected, I may pick one up since the price is supposed to only be $650.
     
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  18. DanS

    DanS Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Mar 8, 2016
    Central IL
    Please do a little write-up if you do the comparison.
     
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