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New mft 300mm zooms compared to 4/3 70-300mm

Discussion in 'Native Lenses' started by Fish, Apr 18, 2011.

  1. Fish

    Fish Mu-43 Rookie

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    Nov 15, 2010
    Hi all,

    I have been using the Olympus 4/3 70-300mm lens on my E-PL2 by way of an adapter and I have not been as impressed with the image quality as I had hoped. My question is, am I missing anything by not having the Olympus or Panasonic micro 4/3 lenses?

    I am not concerned with compact size here. The 70-300mm is not too big (would be nice if it had a tripod collar on the lens though), but is there a sharper option?

    Thanks,

    Chad
     
  2. MichaelShea

    MichaelShea Mu-43 Regular

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    Jan 27, 2011
    Algarve, Portugal
    Don't know whether your lens firmware is up to date, but it needs to be. I don't have one of these lenses, but in theory there should be no deterioration in image quality with M4/3. Often people complain about focus speed, but apparently firmware version 1.3 improves the focus accuracy amongst other things.

    Joint update service for OLYMPUS E-SYSTEM - OLYMPUS Digital Camera
     
  3. Armanius

    Armanius Mu-43 All-Pro

    Feb 23, 2010
    Houston
    Muttley
    The ZD 70-300 was never a great performer to begin with, even when coupled with the Oly 620/510/410 that I used to have. If you want good IQ and don't mind big size, try the ZD 50-200 SWD. You don't get the reach of the 70-300, but the IQ is much much better at 200mm than the 70-300.

    I've never used the m4/3 ZD 75-300 or the Pany 100-300. So I can't comment on their IQ. Some people really like the 100-300.

    I'm very happy with the Pany 45-200 mounted on my GH2.
     
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  4. Fish

    Fish Mu-43 Rookie

    22
    Nov 15, 2010
    Thanks for the reply. Yes I have the most up to date firmware and the autofocus speed is not bad.

    I know that the quality of 4/3 lenses doesn't deteriorate on m4/3, but I was wondering if the new 100-300mm or 75-300mm m4/3 lenses are any better optically than this one is.

    If there is someone out there that has experience with the 70-300mm and either of the m4/3 super telephotos I would love to hear it.

    Thanks,

    Chad
     
  5. Fish

    Fish Mu-43 Rookie

    22
    Nov 15, 2010

    Thanks for the info! Yes, the 50-200mm would be a much better lens optically - but I thought I would try the 70-300mm because it would give me better reach and is optimized for cdaf...

    Regarding the 50-200mm, I read somewhere that the older, non-swd version might be better suited to cdaf focusing on our m4/3 bodies.

    Too bad Olympus doesn't have a slightly smaller (and cheaper) version of their 300mm 2.8 :tongue:. Even a 300mm f4 with excellent image quality would be a great lens!

    Chad
     
  6. Armanius

    Armanius Mu-43 All-Pro

    Feb 23, 2010
    Houston
    Muttley
    Unless you really need the 300mm, I recommend giving the Pany 45-200 a try. I think it's really underrated. I was pleasantly surprised at the quality that I was getting in decent light conditions at 200mm even wide open.

    Unfortunately, the prices on the 45-200 have gone up significantly since the earthquake. It used to sell for about $270 new. It's now $350, which makes it about $180 less than the Pany 100-300.
     
  7. Fish

    Fish Mu-43 Rookie

    22
    Nov 15, 2010
    Thanks for the tip, I will start reading up on the 45-200mm :thumbup:
     
  8. trinptx

    trinptx Mu-43 Rookie

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    Mar 4, 2011
    I'm also looking at the Olympus native m4/3 75-300mm and the Panasonic native m4/3 100-300. Will be used for bird pics along coast on my E-PL1. Which one is better and why?

    I have Oly kit 14-42mm, Oly 40-150mm, and Panny 7-14mm. I went out yesterday afternoon and found my 150mm too short, and I wasn't able to decrease the distance due to No Trespassing sign, so it's time to gain more reach on land with a M4/3 native lens capable of 300mm.

    Panasonic Lumix G Vario 100-300mm F/4.0-5.6 OIS Lens H-FS100300

    Olympus 75-300mm f/4.8-6.7 M.Zuiko Lens for Micro Four 261507

    Thanks,
    tripntx
     
  9. Fish

    Fish Mu-43 Rookie

    22
    Nov 15, 2010
    From the reading I have done, I think the Olympus is supposed to be sharper... but it is more expensive than the Panasonic.

    Hopefully someone will be able to shed some light on my question, because if the m4/3 lenses are no better optically than the zuiko 70-300mm - you may as well get the latter. You can get the lens and adapter for less than half of what the micro variants go for. If you look on flikr, there are some great photos taken with the 70-300mm, so maybe it's just me...

    - Chad

    Edit: I just noticed that you have the Panasonic 7-14mm, that looks like a great lens! I found a used Olympus 9-18mm for $400 so I went with that instead... hopefully it will still suffice.
     
  10. trinptx

    trinptx Mu-43 Rookie

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    Mar 4, 2011
    My main interest in M4/3 was to improve my underwater pic taking (P&S shutter lag had become unbearable). DSLR is just too large, heavy, and expensive for my budget. Since getting the E-PL1 I have started taking more and more on land pics as well, hence the 40-150mm and now looking for 300mm ability.
    As to the 7-14mm, it is terrific underwater in Oly PT-EP01 housing with ZEN Dome. If I was just buying for land based use, then I would have gone with the OLY 9-18mm as well.

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  11. Armanius

    Armanius Mu-43 All-Pro

    Feb 23, 2010
    Houston
    Muttley
    Awesome! Looks like a robot! :smile:
     
  12. Adubo

    Adubo SithLord

    Nov 4, 2010
    Globetrotter
    Andrew
    That really looks cool. And scary to be pointed at. LOL:rofl:
     
  13. Howi

    Howi Mu-43 Veteran

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    Feb 23, 2011
    Sheffield
    Howard
    The 70-300 is a much berated lens, unjustly in my opinion.
    There are plenty of examples from this lens on't web.
    Yes! we all know the 50-200 is better but it is 2-3 times the price and weight.
    Don't forget the macro capability of the 70-300, overall it is a very versatile lens for what it is, you DO have to use it in good light though!!!
    I have just been trying mine out on a GF1 (NO IS) with no problems at all, you do need to remember to keep shutter speed up, it is a telephoto after all.
     
  14. trinptx

    trinptx Mu-43 Rookie

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    Mar 4, 2011
    The Panny 100-300mm is down to $524 on Amazon so I ordered one last night.
     
  15. Fish

    Fish Mu-43 Rookie

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    Nov 15, 2010
    Congrats, please let us know what you think of it :cool:
     
  16. John M Flores

    John M Flores Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jan 7, 2011
    Somerville, NJ
    Wall-E?
     
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  17. Fish

    Fish Mu-43 Rookie

    22
    Nov 15, 2010
    a couple photos

    Hello everyone, I was hoping to keep this thread alive long enough for someone who has experience to tell me which 300mm lens option will give me the best image quality.

    I have to admit that the 4/3 70-300mm (with adapter) is growing on me. Here are a couple of pictures I took yesterday. I am quite surprised at the macro capabilities of this lens, considering I took the shot hand-held and the branch was blowing slightly in the wind.

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    I assume the Olympus 75-300mm and Panny 100-300mm m4/3 lenses will autofocus better; but they are slower and that is a serious consideration at this focal length. If you know how they compare to the 70-300 in terms of sharpness and contrast, please let me know.


    My wish: Olympus would take their legendary 300mm f2.8 and work it into a smaller and cheaper, but still excellent 300mm f4! That's not too much to ask is it?

    - Chad
     
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  18. LisainSF

    LisainSF New to Mu-43

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    Sep 5, 2010
    I had the 4/3rds version and found it to be slow to AF especially at the long end, then bought the Panasonic 100-300 and it was much faster. The IQ is very similar however.

    this is the Panny 100-300 in the EPL1

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    on the G1

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    Olympus 4/3rds 70-300 on epl1

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    on the EP2


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  19. Fish

    Fish Mu-43 Rookie

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    Nov 15, 2010
    Wow great photos! Thanks for your insight. Which lens do you find to be the better performer, the 4/3 or m4/3?

    That Rhino shot is awesome :cool:
     
  20. Actually the 50-200mm is only a few hundred grams heavier and about 20mm longer when when both lenses are fully retracted.