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New lens roadmap 2018+

Discussion in 'Native Lenses' started by tr33man, Mar 8, 2018.

  1. tr33man

    tr33man Mu-43 Rookie

    Feb 10, 2018
    So, now that the last rumored lens (50-200) is out, what's next? it's a very nice system, but there's always room for more.

    Here are my ideas of what's missing:
    - 9 or 10mm prime at around f/1.7-f/2.
    - 7-14mm f/4 updated with 6-12mm f/4 (to mimic all those FF 12-24 Sigmas, Canons and similar)
    - a set of F/2 zooms maybe? (8-14, 12-35, 35-100) - those would be huge and $$$$ though... :( 
    - something from Panny to rival Oly 75mm, 75 or 100mm f/2ish...?
    - 100mm macro

    What are your thoughts and wishes?
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  2. TNcasual

    TNcasual Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Dec 2, 2014
    Knoxville, TN
    Over and over and over again. :026:
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  3. Mike Wingate

    Mike Wingate Mu-43 All-Pro

    Feb 21, 2017
    Mike Wingate
    A fast focusing 20mm f1.7 Mk.111.
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  4. gryphon1911

    gryphon1911 Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Mar 13, 2014
    Central Ohio, USA
    I think a lot of people would buy that up.
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  5. PL25 that is up to the standards of the rest of the PL line in terms of AF speed, aperture performance, body design, aperture ring, etc.
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  6. Make the 45-175mm WR like the others.
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  7. DeeJayK

    DeeJayK Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Feb 8, 2011
    Pacific Northwest, USA
    I agree with @Mike Wingate@Mike Wingate that now that there's a pretty good range of lenses for the system it's time to go back and revisit some of the original designs. I'd love to see a modern remake of the 20/1.7 which is a lens I continue to go back to despite it's drawbacks.

    I'd also love to see a modern remake of the PL25/1.4 (without that stupid squared off lens hood). The PRO lenses are optically fantastic, but they're just so big, which is a bit of an anathema for a system of which one of the primary strengths is compact size. I mean I realize WHY the PRO lenses are the size they are, but I'd love to see a line of lenses slotted between the "entry level" (f1.7 & f1.8) lens and the PRO (f1.2) lenses.
  8. protapic

    protapic Mu-43 Top Veteran Subscribing Member

    Feb 12, 2011
    Cleveland, Ohio
    More + better pancakes! Love having small camera and lenses! Remake of 20/1.7 is a great start.
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  9. Turbofrog

    Turbofrog Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 21, 2014
    1. A wide-angle prime around 10mm is realistically the only focal length that is not appropriately covered in the system. Ideally it would be affordable, even if that means f2.8. If it's f1.7-f2, that will likely leap into pretty pricey territory (see Fuji's 14mm/f2.8 for $900 smackeroos!)
    2. 90-100mm macro would be another good one. Again, hopefully at a reasonable price. Not like Fuji's $1200 80mm/f2.8.
    3. A single fast, normal, weather-sealed prime in the $300-500 range. This time they can feel free to emulate Fuji on pricing.
    People have been asking for these for a while, but really aside from that, the lenses most people are going to be asking for are pure exotica that are lustworthy, but take disproportionate amounts of R&D and few people will actually buy.

    For some reason Oly is going to release their 12mm/f1.2 next. I'm not sure anyone asked for or cared about that lens, but there it is, anyway.
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  10. pdk42

    pdk42 One of the "Eh?" team

    Jan 11, 2013
    Leamington Spa, UK
    There really aren't any significant gaps in the m43 catalogue these days - we really have never had it so good!

    About the only thing I'd really like would be some wide angle T&S lenses - say a 17 or 12. Needn't be a fast lens, just T&S. I can see that such a lens would be a fairly minority interest, but if you do a lot of architectural shooting it's a big benefit.

    My nephew is a very talented architecture photographer and he uses a T & S lens on his Canon FF gear to great effect:

    Paul Buckingham
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  11. RyanM

    RyanM Mu-43 Veteran

    Jun 16, 2017
    It's all meaningless, and our desires are probably hopelessly impractical. But it's a fun intellectual exercise.
    Some current holes in the lineup that would interest me:

    - rectilinear ultra-wide, consumer/enthusiast grade; something like a 9mm f/2.8-4 for $350, i.e. a bit downmarket of the $500 Laowa 7.5mm f/2
    - UWA zoom, consumer/enthusiast grade from Oly; the 9-18 isn't that wide, a 7-16 f/4 without purple blobs would be super
    - 12mm prime; sometimes something wider than 28mm FFE is nice. Right now we have a $1300 leica and the $700 oly f/2 that somehow is way less sharp at 12mm than the $800 12-40 zoom :wtf:
    - 20mm f1.7 mk iii that focuses fast sounds like a winner
    - enthusiast-grade tele prime, maybe a 135mm f/2.8?

    Basically, I can't afford $800+ lenses like the PRO line, and I don't like the quality of kit and super zooms. m43 has a bunch of offerings in that enthusiast space in between, but it would be great to see some more offerings, especially since the consumer/enthusiast primes are where the size/weight advantage of m43 really shines.
  12. Phocal

    Phocal Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Jan 3, 2014
    150mm f2.0, 300mm f2.8, 400mm f2.8, 500mm f4.0, 600mm f4.0 - but only if they are of the old SHG quality with respects to sharpness and bokeh.........otherwise I am not interested.
  13. Turbofrog

    Turbofrog Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 21, 2014
    That certainly seems to be the case with both new fast tele-primes in the system, so if any of these lenses were made, that seems like a reasonable expectation.
  14. Phocal

    Phocal Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Jan 3, 2014
    Actually that is only the case with the new f1.2 primes. The 300/4 was made with resolution as the top priority. Just when they announced the f1.2 primes Olympus came out and said they were approaching them and future pro lenses from an IQ perspective and not just resolution. The 300/4 may have amazing resolution but doesn’t match my 150/2 with respects to bokeh or transitions. I am sure it doesn’t match the 300/2.8 either, but I don’t have one to compare it to.
  15. alex66

    alex66 Mu-43 All-Pro Subscribing Member

    Jul 23, 2010
    I dream of a Tri-Elmar I think they were F4 say 12-17-25 just clicks to those focal lengths.
    A fast 20 as others have said would be nice, perhaps a stronger motor would do the trick.
    A 67.5 has long been on my desire list without the hefty price tag 2.8 is fine by me.
    I may try a 10mm if its a reasonable price, don't think I would go any wider.
  16. WT21

    WT21 Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Feb 19, 2010
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  17. Cropped to 3:2 aspect, the Sigma 60mm f/2.8 ART DN is basically it.
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  18. drd1135

    drd1135 Zen Snapshooter Subscribing Member

    Mar 17, 2011
    Southwest Virginia
    More fast pancakes. That’s just me, of course.
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  19. ArcticaMT6

    ArcticaMT6 Mu-43 Veteran

    Jul 11, 2016
    Bainbridge Island, WA
    If we're dreaming here, a Micro 4/3rds equivalent to the Canon 8-15mm fisheye. A zoom fisheye would be great for me.
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  20. davidzvi

    davidzvi Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Aug 12, 2012
    Outside Boston MA
    Since I think they missed the make with the 50-200 f/2.8-4.0 I'll add that to the list. A REASONABLY price mid grade telephoto to +/-200mm. Not the cheap 45-140/150/175/200, the too big 100-300, or too pricey PL50-200 & PL100-400. But something like Fuji's XF 55-200 f/3.5-4.8. So it might be from Panasonic's X Vario line instead of PanLeica.

    And the above mentioned Pancakes.
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