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New Em10 and lens lust

Discussion in 'Native Lenses' started by mario23, May 15, 2014.

  1. mario23

    mario23 Mu-43 Regular

    127
    May 9, 2014
    FL
    Ok so I got rid of my nex system and now have an em10 with the kit 14-42 and a 40-150.
    So far I love this system...way better than what I had. I shoot mostly travel and some street so now I want lenses. I imagine I'll have a bunch eventually but I'm trying to figure out what I want first. I like so many for different reasons and it's killing me. Here's what I want ultimately...

    12-40 2.8
    17 1.8
    25 1.8
    70-300
    7-14 pro when it comes out

    So what would you guys get first? I have a feeling that 12-40 is a great walk around but shiver at the price. The 17mm looks like a great choice and I do like a lot of low light work. I shouldn't make myself nuts over this but just can't decide what I want first. Tia
     
  2. Ned

    Ned Mu-43 Legend

    Jul 18, 2010
    Alberta, Canada
    How about starting with 2 primes? For instance the 17mm/1.8 + 45mm/1.8 instead of the 12-40mm/2.8 zoom. Or the 25mm/1.8 and 75mm/1.8 if you like a tighter crop? Getting both the 17mm/1.8 and 25mm/1.8 would be too redundant to start with, though if you were to go with just one prime lens then either of those (or better yet the 25mm/1.4 Summilux) would be a good choice depending on your preference of framing (I would get the 25mm if using only one lens, but that's just what my eye likes better). Don't forget the 12mm/2, which would make a great companion for the 45mm/1.8 to eliminate the need for a 12-40mm/2.8 zoom.

    What kind of budget are you looking at possibly spending?
     
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  3. nuclearboy

    nuclearboy Mu-43 Top Veteran

    850
    Jan 28, 2011
    USA
    I would vote for the 25mm first if you like primes. If you do like zooms, by all means get the 12-40mm or the 12-35 from panasonic. If you don't mind the size, these might eliminate the need for some primes.
     
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  4. popiT

    popiT Mu-43 Top Veteran

    602
    Mar 20, 2014
    BayArea, CA
    Yang
    Totally agreed with Ned for 17 & 45. Take the $100 off advantage which expires on 5/17 if you're in U.S.

    Have fun.
     
  5. mario23

    mario23 Mu-43 Regular

    127
    May 9, 2014
    FL
    I could swing $1000.00 up front if I was so inclined. I just didn't know if I was rushing into the 12-40 or more important...would a nice prime be more fun right up front.

    I did see that discount on bh for the 17...hmmmmm

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  6. dornblaser

    dornblaser Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 13, 2012
    Chicago-area
    David Dornblaser
    + 2
     
  7. DynaSport

    DynaSport Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jan 5, 2013
    Dan
    I had the P14 and O45 as my kit for a long time and was pretty happy. I added the PL25 and it is now my favorite lens, although I still love the O45. Since you have the kit zoom, I'd recommend getting a nice prime in the focal length you like best. Or, get two. Or three.
     
  8. PatrickNSF

    PatrickNSF Mu-43 Regular

    119
    Sep 30, 2011
    San Francisco, CA
    Patrick
    I think either the 17/1.8 or 25/1.8 are great options. I keep the 25/1.8 on my E-M10 when I'm using it at home. And I always travel with the 17/1.8 in addition to whatever zoom I take.
     
  9. mario23

    mario23 Mu-43 Regular

    127
    May 9, 2014
    FL
    Thanks guys. I think I see a trend here. Kind of reinforces what I suspected regarding primes vs zooms. Ultimately I just want them all!

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  10. Harvey Melvin Richards

    Harvey Melvin Richards Photo Posting Junkie

    Feb 15, 2014
    Southwest Utah
    Of all my lenses listed in my signature, the 12-40 is my absolute favorite followed by the 60mm Macro. I don't have any primes other than the 60, but I can't imagine they are significantly better than the 12-40. And the photos I've seen from all of them would confirm this.
     
  11. bhima

    bhima Mu-43 Regular

    143
    Mar 25, 2014
    That Oly 12-40 2.8 is a damn sharp lens in the 12-30 range (24-60mm range). WAAAY sharper than any zoom Sony has on offer. I wouldn't toss it aside too quickly ;)

    Add these to your watch list as well:
    Leica 15 1.7 (spendy at $600, but it looks to be better than the Oly 17 and a bit wider)
    Panny 20 1.7 (Can get this used for a pretty good price, under $300. not as wide as the Oly 17, but significantly sharper... slower to focus though)
    Panny 14 2.5 (decent img quality, small as heck, fast to focus)
    Sigma 60mm 2.8 (cheap, 3rd or 4th sharpest lens in the entire m43 stable, weird focal length but works well for portraits)

    Safe bet is Oly 17 and the Oly 45 as a 2 lens combo. My only issue with this is I personally don't find 35mm to be quite wide enough, but there are many others who might as well just glue that lens on their camera.
     
  12. dornblaser

    dornblaser Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 13, 2012
    Chicago-area
    David Dornblaser
    Shoot museum or architectural interiors or night shoots, as good as the 12-40 is, nothing beats a fast prime for those environs.
     
  13. popiT

    popiT Mu-43 Top Veteran

    602
    Mar 20, 2014
    BayArea, CA
    Yang
    Why not!? :biggrin:

    I found primes and zooms are not redundant but different use in situations. I take primes when I know I can zoom with my feet and for low lights. Zooms when situation like in events/shows/concerts that you only sit in one place, although sometimes 2.8 is still good for low lights.

    Oh, eventually, add a body or two or three :smile:
     
  14. Uncle Frank

    Uncle Frank Photo Enthusiast

    772
    Jul 26, 2012
    San Jose, CA
    Frank
    Imho the 17/1.8 and 25/1.8 are spaced too closely to be in the same kit. Choose one or the other. They're both excellent lenses, and either will be a great introduction to small/fast primes.. I've owned both, and, for my style of shooting, favor the 25/1.8. It's wide enough for scapes...

    P5100256%20mr-XL.

    long enough for portraiture...

    P5110312%20mr-XL.

    and has a max reproduction ratio that's acceptable for flowers.

    P4270370%20mr-XL.
     
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  15. benti77

    benti77 Mu-43 Rookie

    12
    Mar 16, 2014
    I find myself with the same doubts.
    I've found:
    - new 25mm at 320euros
    - used 17mm at 350euro or new at 400euros.

    I like to shoot wide panaromas, but I also have the 14-42 ez lens, that with enought light is quite good, moreover this zoom at 25 or more mm becames quite slow.

    The 17mm would let me shoot both panormas and portait (I can always crop the picture) and is smaller.

    the 25mm would be very nice to shoot inside portaits and is cheaper (if buyed new).

    I think I'm going to buy the 25mm but what would you do?

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  16. Klorenzo

    Klorenzo Mu-43 All-Pro

    Mar 10, 2014
    Lorenzo
    You have almost all focal lengths covered, so what are you looking for exactly?
    More background blur? Go for the 45 or 75 1.8. Wildlife/sport? 75-300. Better general purpose IQ in a "not small" package? 12-40. A different way to see and take pictures with a prime? 25 1.8. Low light shooting of niteriors, concert or something else? Something wider? Maybe a wide converter like this Nikon WC-E68.
     
  17. benti77

    benti77 Mu-43 Rookie

    12
    Mar 16, 2014
    I add to my options the panasonic 20mm f1.8 at 320e (new).
    maybe it's a compromise between the 17 and the 25, and is also very compact to better fit in the em10

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  18. Ulfric M Douglas

    Ulfric M Douglas Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 6, 2010
    Northumberland
    M.Zuiko 45mmF1.8
     
  19. DynaSport

    DynaSport Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jan 5, 2013
    Dan
    My main complaint with my P14/O45 kit was that sometimes in interiors I didn't have enough space to back up to get group shots. So, I'd put the P14 on, but if I was too close then I got ugly perspective distortion (not sure if I'm using the correct term). For example, I was taking a shot of three people sitting on a sore. Composed the way I wanted with my P14, their knees and feet looked huge compared to their torso. Not pleasing at all. But I didn't have enough room in the room to back up far enough to get all three people in the shot with my 45. The 25 fixed that. I have found for a general purpose lens the 25 is fantastic. Not too much distortion for taking a shot of one person, but wide enough to get small groups in the frame. If I could only have one prime, it would be the 25. Still, there are times when I prefer the 45 or 14, so I'm glad I can have more than 1 prime.
     
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  20. Rickf

    Rickf Mu-43 Rookie

    21
    Apr 7, 2014
    With my EM10 I also ordered the 14-42 EZ, 17/1.8, 45/1.8 and 75/1.8. In my limited experience with them so far I have concluded the EZ is a great compact, all-purpose lens. The 17/1.8 has a focal length I'm more comfortable with compared to the 25mm. I see these two lenses as being an either/or decision. I really like the pictures I've taken with the 45/1.8 and it's a focal length I can work with. The 75/1.8, as good as it is, is just not for me. For the pictures I take I find it's either too long or not long enough. It's going back and I'm getting the 75-300. Not at all in the same optical class as the 75/1.8 but it's what suits my needs. What I've learned is that you have to get what suits your shooting style and not just rely on reviews to tell you how great a lens is.

    Rick