New E-P5 with 17 and 45, should I get the 25 + 60 or the 12-35?

Discussion in 'Native Lenses' started by jpark1982, Aug 13, 2013.

  1. jpark1982

    jpark1982 Mu-43 Regular

    Aug 3, 2013
    I just bought a Olympus E-P5 with kit 17mm f/1.8 and put in a order for the 45 f/1.8 as well. I came from shooting a NEX-6 + Zeiss 24 and a RX1 for the last 8 months, so I'm used to shooting in the 35mm FOV. I'll feel right at home with the 17 and I heard that the 45 is sharp and relatively cheap. So I have two options

    A) Panasonic Leica 25 f/1.4 used for around $500 + Olympus 60 Macro for $400 = $900


    B) Panasonic 12-35 for $900 used in mint condition

    Eventually whichever option I don't go for now, I will most likely end up with towards the end of the year. I'm leaning towards B because of the flexibility and I think I have the low light requirements with the 17 and 45 being 1.8, but this is my first m4/3 so if the 1 additional stop that much different?

    I used to shoot with a 24-70 when I had a Nikon FF, so I'm used to the zoom range. I don't do too much macro but looking to get into it but I figure the 60 is sharp and it can double as a longer portrait if I needed. Plus I have a 2 week vacation planned overseas to Asia in October. Thoughts?
  2. krugorg

    krugorg Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Jul 18, 2011
    Minnesota USA
    How much are you shooting macro? You could also consider picking up the 25/1.4 along with the cheaper 12-50 zoom, if you mostly shoot primes and non-macro.

    I have not had a chance to try the 17/1.8, but I also really like the focal length. There is something special about the PL25, though, especially using it wide open for portraits. Pretty sharp center @1.4 and pleasing colors, I think.
  3. Wisertime

    Wisertime Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 6, 2013
    The PL 25 is special. Kind of a must have. The 60mm macro is on sale now and I just got one this week too. The 45 rocks too. If I was you, I'd pick up a used 45 if you want one bad enough. Unless you do Macro, the 45 will prob suit you fine.

    Can't comment on the 12-35...guess it depends what you shoot mostly. I lust for the 75mm, but can't justify it now.
  4. huai

    huai Mu-43 Regular

    May 24, 2013
    I'd shoot the 17 and 45 for a couple of months and figure out your needs after that. 17+45 covers you for portraits and street photography.

    What will the 25, 60Macro, or 12-35 enable you to shoot that you can't shoot now (and that you actually have a need to shoot on a regular basis)? Once you can answer that question you'll know what else you need.

    Don't spend $3500 on a bag full of gear before you figure out your shooting style. Enjoy what you have.
  5. jpark1982

    jpark1982 Mu-43 Regular

    Aug 3, 2013
    Thanks for the feedback. I'm going to go with the PL25 for now and roll with a 3 lens bag for the time being. I shoot some but not a ton of macro (flowers, food) but will hold off. I was thinking about it because the $100 sale is supposed to be over on the 17th but I should still be able to get a good deal on it even after the sale.
  6. mh2000

    mh2000 Mu-43 Veteran

    Jul 3, 2010
    17, 25 and 45 would do me pretty good forever. :)
  7. brianb032

    brianb032 Mu-43 Veteran

    Jan 10, 2011
    Too bad you can't say the same about bodies. That's almost an unending rabbit hole.
  8. jpark1982

    jpark1982 Mu-43 Regular

    Aug 3, 2013
    I'm looking forward to it. Just picked up the 25 on Amazon from the Warehouse Deals for $483 in like new condition. Nice that is has a 30 day return policy as well.

    17, 25, and 45. 35 for street and a length I'm very comfortable with. 50 for lower light and general, and 90 for portraits.

    I'll hold off on any other lenses.
  9. Mr Hahn

    Mr Hahn Mu-43 Veteran

    Jul 9, 2010
    SLC, Utah
    I love the 75mm prime and I leave it on my camera all the time. On the other hand I haven't really bonded with my 25mm. I'm always wanting a little more or a little less lens, so I'm going to replace it with the 12-35mm instead of buying a couple more primes to go around it.
  10. Anthonys

    Anthonys Mu-43 Regular

    Nov 17, 2011
    I think I would have leant towards option B but that us because I prefer wider angles, although my guess is the 25 won't offer much over the 17 unless you make large prints or really want the background blur look? With a bit of cropping on the 17 you could save carrying an extra lens? Interested to hear what situations you've found it useful?

    I'm looking at the PL25 vs the 12-35 and from my research looks like the 12-35 is almost as sharp. Plus it has OIS so better for video and low light still shots. Combined with the flexibility of a zoom feels like its almost like carrying a set of primes. The only reason I'm still thinking PL25 is for it's lovely shallow DoF, and size/cost advantage. Though if you add the 12mm it works out more expensive!
  11. jpark1982

    jpark1982 Mu-43 Regular

    Aug 3, 2013
    My reasoning for the PL over the zoom is because right now I take a lot of pictures indoors since my daughter is still young and spends most of the time inside and need the low light. When I was shooting with the NEX, the Zeiss 1.8 stayed on my camera, anything lower than 1.8 boosted the ISO up too high.

    When she gets a little older and we start taking her outside more often, I'm sure then I'll pick up the 12-35 for simplicity when I don't want to carry the primes.
  12. DynaSport

    DynaSport Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Jan 5, 2013
    The 17, 25, 45, 75 is pretty much my dream kit. Saying that, the 12-35 and 35-100 holds an attraction for me as well, because there are times that zooms are just so handy. On my dslr kit, I found I bonded much more with good quality zooms than I did primes, but maybe I just didn't have the right primes.

    If I was rich, I'd buy both sets and see which I actually ended up using. As it is, I have to make choices and hope they are the right ones.
  13. zap

    zap Mu-43 Veteran

    Jul 23, 2012
    how about 12 and 75 for wider-angle and further reach? or 12 and 60 for the macro...
  14. Anthonys

    Anthonys Mu-43 Regular

    Nov 17, 2011
    What are you using now? You can also try the best of both worlds:

    17, 25 and 35-100


    12-35, 45, 75

    ? :cool:
  15. DynaSport

    DynaSport Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Jan 5, 2013
    You're just trying to confuse me.

    As to what I am using now, I have the O14-42 II and 40-150. Obviously I'm on a budget. But I will add over time and honestly, I have really enjoyed both those lenses. Especially the 40-150.