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Discussion in 'Micro 4/3 News and Rumors' started by sabesh, Apr 23, 2013.
Some info about the new bodies:
Not much info!
The price is ridiculous! $1000 for just a body?
Why do we need a new E-PL? the 5 hasn't been out that long. I wish they would slow down on the body upgrades and work on new lenses instead.
+1. It's a bit silly really.
The E-P5 will need more than a new sensor to make it an attractive upgrade for me. I have zero use for WIFI in a camera (waste of body space) - I'd rather see focus peaking and the better IBIS. I suspect that I'll go for a used EM-5 rather than the E-P5.
Agree! Can't blame them though since that is where they make the most money the fastest.
It's fine by me as long as it drives down the E-PL5 price.
Sigh. "Man bites dog — film at 6:00."
I agree with your comments, Bob, but I'll wait for the official Oly announcement before I start considering upgrades to my ep3. Unfortunately, the em5 isn't a candidate. Though it's technically brilliant, I sold mine after a few months because of handling and appearance. It's disappointing that Oly hasn't addressed the enthusiast segment since introducing the em5 over a year ago.
With the $1000 body only price, maybe it does have an integrated EVF despite what rumors are saying
I wonder if they'll continue with this wide rear screen nonsense...
I think based on patterns of what I seem over the years, people will moan about the price initially but when it comes out people will still buy them regardless. (Whatever the specs, built in VF, new sensor etc.) I remember people moaning about the ep3 not having the newer 16mp sensor too. Actually that was kind of disappointing back then.
The persistent rumors of a $1,000 price point don't seem plausible to me. That places the new PEN as a direct competitor to the OM-D, which doesn't seem likely. I would be more likely to think the E-P5 will slot in around US$800. Of course, that's based on nothing more than my own gut.
The image from the Olympus China site seems to imply that the camera will bear a very close resemblance to the E-P3, and would seem to all but rule out an EVF unless it's a tiny one a la the LF1.
Something similar to the WiFi control and monitoring features offered on the GH3 would be interesting to me, although I doubt it would be something I'd use often and it's not a feature that would make me rush to the camera store with my credit card.
As Bob noted earlier, I assume the biggest benefit I will personally see from this announcement will be if it depresses the value of the OM-D on the used market.
For the E-P5 to cost more than an E-M5 is a tough sell. I would imagine a re-engineered E-P3 with an optical hybrid rangefinder, E-M5 sensor or better along with its IBIS would be wonderful... BUT for $1,000 US... eeek.
The DSLR world had the body upgrade frenzy happen for years with its enthusiast and semi-pro lines but even then users emphasized investing in better glass. The non-DSLR world went the same route but it "felt" like they did it in mach speed. Not just :43: but all non-dslr systems. If we as consumers continue to buy new bodies every time new technology is introduced, manufacturers will continue to follow the fast pace upgrades no matter how insignificant the improvements are.
I felt the E-P3 was by far a better handling, better looking camera than the E-M5. I just couldn't convince myself to get a camera with a 5-year-old sensor, so I eventually went with the E-PL5.
No regrets, but the PEN format with the new sensor (and hopefully 5-axis IBIS) sounds appealing to me. I've already started acquiring lenses, so $1,000 for body only isn't as much of an obstacle as it would be to a new M4/3 user.
Seems like a good upgrade to me, depending on the details.
Last Fall the local Olympus Rep told me of their plan to bring out the E-P5 early this year in conjunction with shutting down the E-P3 production line. The market segment that it is targeting was exactly the same as the E-P3 (PEN Styling with maximum controls) and it was to have the same MSRP. He said it would have the current sensor (like we saw in the E-PL5 and E-PM2) but felt the 5-Axis IBIS and built in OVF format was going to stay limited to the OM-D line. The next OM-D will replicate that winning combination of features and styling but have the rumored sensor enhancements (CAF improvements?).
I don't mind the rear screen, but I don't think it should be the only option for composition. Never did, never will. (While limited in some ambient lighting situations, the flexing/rotating screen is highly beneficial for composing high and low angle shots that would otherwise be quite difficult with any other viewer, including the VF-types. So I can live with that)
But there are other things about what we're being told that I really find irrelevant and not worth paying for the "upgrade" that the new cameras will be sold to us as being.
I'm just going to throw a wrench into the mix. I wonder if it'll have an optical VF, built-in flash, and better performing 2-axis IBIS.
When I heard that the P5 wouldn't have a built in EVF, I was faced with a hard choice, when upgrading from a P2.
Either go Fuji, and buy again some lenses, or try the E-M5. I am glad that I did the latter: it is smaller than the P2 with VF-2, but is twice the former in terms of performance.
Oly must have in its genes the SLR defeating Leica in the 1950s therefore it is not keen in reviving the RF look.
Fuji instead has always aimed at being the Japanese competitor of Leica, with a similar shape.
It will be interesting to see what will happen if Leica responds, as rumoured, with an entry level mirrorless.
At the moment however for me the E-M5 has superseded the E-Px with no regrets.
For all we know, they just got the intern to make a silhouette of the E-P3, so that doesn't necessarily tell us anything. Surely they won't just add in the new sensor, keep everything else the same and bump up the price. That would be suicidal in this competitive market.
More info on the E-P5