Need advice on Best IQ adapted lens for tele 500mm , 600mm, 800mm

Discussion in 'Adapted Lenses' started by wilco23, Feb 11, 2014.

  1. wilco23

    wilco23 Mu-43 Rookie

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    Feb 9, 2014
    Hi,

    I have EM-1 with Pana 35-100/2.8. I am very satisfied with the IQ. I need advice on tele range 500mm and above to adapt on EM-1. Your opinion and advice with 100% crop sample would be really appreciated.

    Thanks,
    Wilco
     
  2. verbatimium

    verbatimium Mu-43 Veteran

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    Jul 17, 2013
    Toronto, Ontario
    Martin
    What is your price budget. I have personally tried Canon FD 500mm f/4.5 L. Amazing results, but be prepared to fork out 1.5-2grand on one for one, and even more for a great condition one.

    Those focal lengths with great IQ, you are basically looking at Nikon or Canon L glass.
     
  3. Jeff1:1

    Jeff1:1 Mu-43 Regular

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    Dec 2, 2013
    Chicago
    Agree, and big size and weight too. If it's to get an effective 1000-1600mm field of view, the lens should have a tripod collar. The mirror lens doesn't weight a lot, but big lenses will stress the mount and camera tripod mount areas. My 500mm mirror lens (1000mm fov) is very difficult to get steady tight framing when hand held, IBIS or not, so I use tripod or don't take lens with me.
     
  4. wilco23

    wilco23 Mu-43 Rookie

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    Feb 9, 2014
    Thanks for the advice. I cannot decide between Nikon long tele and Canon FD tele. I cannot afford 5,6 Grand AF tele so I am thinking of spending 2 Grand to use with E-M1. My aim is to take stationary wild life subject and not Bird in flight.
    Do you post sample 100% crop photo? I would love to see it. I want IQ equal or close to Panasonic 35-100mm at 100mm end and I am not sure I am expecting a lot from old lenses though.
     
  5. OzRay

    OzRay Mu-43 Legend

    Jan 29, 2010
    South Gippsland, Australia
    Ray, not Oz
    Are you looking for the equivalent of 500mm etc FL or actual 500mm + FL ie 1000mm etc effective? If it's the former, there are plenty of very good and relatively inexpensive options, if it's the latter, there are very few inexpensive, good, options.
     
  6. wilco23

    wilco23 Mu-43 Rookie

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    Feb 9, 2014
    I am looking for actual 500mm and above which means 1000mm FOV and above in OMD.
     
  7. OzRay

    OzRay Mu-43 Legend

    Jan 29, 2010
    South Gippsland, Australia
    Ray, not Oz
    Then you'll have to resign yourself to the fact that your only choice will be either a fairly expensive option, or fairly poor quality. Mirror (catadioptric) lenses are pretty much out of the question, as high quality ones haven't been made for years and even then, usually don't match regular optics. A lens like my old Nikon 300mm f4 with teleconverter can produce pretty good results at a reasonable price, so that could be a consideration. Unfortunately, I can't seem to post examples.
     
  8. StuartF

    StuartF New to Mu-43

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    Aug 9, 2013
    South Africa
    Stuart Fleming
    You have an EM-1 which by all accounts should auto focus pretty well using older 4/3rds legacy lenses. If I were you I would look for a used 4/3rds version of the Sigma 50-500mm lens, otherwise know as the Bigma. In terms of image quality it doesnt compare to the expensive Canon and Nikon lenses but it is probably better than anything else in its price range and you would have auto focus. Only problem is it sounds like these lenses are becoming pretty rare.

    I have one but dont have access to a EM1 so comment on how it focus's with this camera but have tried it on my EP3. It does focus but I would say it is too slow to be usable. I still use it on my old Olympus E510 SLR and love this lens.
     
  9. mattia

    mattia Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    May 3, 2012
    The Netherlands
    There's one in the classifieds right now I think.
     
  10. OzRay

    OzRay Mu-43 Legend

    Jan 29, 2010
    South Gippsland, Australia
    Ray, not Oz
  11. Pawel D.

    Pawel D. Mu-43 Regular

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  12. wilco23

    wilco23 Mu-43 Rookie

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    Feb 9, 2014
    Thanks for all your advice. I will look through all of them and will decide since I do not need to rush and want to get good IQ is my first priority.
     
  13. wilco23

    wilco23 Mu-43 Rookie

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    Feb 9, 2014
    Thanks OzRay, it looks very interesting. I found some sample photo in dpreview. I need to dig more to know about it.

    Cheers!
     
  14. JudyM

    JudyM Mu-43 All-Pro

    May 5, 2010
    Westminster, MD
    As others have said, even a used EF 500mm is going to be expensive. It is an extremely nice lens, but unless you've really got your heart set on it, you might take a look at the EF 400mm f5.6L. Even brand new it will be less than half the cost of a used 500mm. It's well regarded for image quality, lighter weight and easy to manage even handheld. This is what I use and I love it. You can put a converter on it for more reach. A few crops are below, as near 100% as I could get them. They lost a little something in the translation being uploaded to Flickr, but you can get an idea of what the lens is capable of.

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  15. JamieW

    JamieW Mu-43 Veteran

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    I just pre ordered the Tamron 150-600. It's about 1/3 stop slower than the canon 400 5.6, is about $230 cheaper, and has an extra 200mm reach. If you put it on a Canon body you also pick up image stabilization. The image quality is outstanding for the price. Higher than the 50-500 and on par with the Canon 400. There is a 150 page image thread on POTN forums for people that have received their preorders already. Not to shabby for $1069. No options for used lenses yet though.
     
  16. datagov

    datagov Mu-43 All-Pro

    Dec 2, 2012
    New York
    I shoot with a Canon fdn 80-200 f4 l and it is just about my favorite lens. I can crop 200% and still have a sharp shot at f4. When I need more reach I add a 2x-b doubler and a tripod. Image quality is outstanding. And the versatility can't be matched.

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  17. OzRay

    OzRay Mu-43 Legend

    Jan 29, 2010
    South Gippsland, Australia
    Ray, not Oz
    Not sure what I was doing wrong earlier, but here are two examples shot with the Nikon 300mm f4, the first of an Australian Wattle bird from maybe 100' away with no extenders and the second of a butterfly from further away with a 2x converter from memory (though could have been the 1.4x):

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    These were shot quite some years ago with my E-1. This really is a lovely lens and I should try to use it more often.
     
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