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Bagrphotography

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Cooool. And 'nailed' with the Mercedes (O-for-OMG-class) car too..

Give you both a tip that is panning out for me, regarding images - shoot 1/3 stop under. This was passed on to me from an F1 tog called Manuel Goria, based here in Perth. (Kym Ilman, also based here in Perth has some good tips as does WRC tog Mat Jelonek too) Freaking lucky to be here we are! (but shhhhh! don't pass it on to the other photo folks here
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Just one observation - your number 81 bike 2nd from end - rider has very blown out white crash helmet - all detail has been lost and it stands out against the rest of the scene - this isn’t a criticism as I often have the same problem but worth looking at a solution ?
Looking at the picture again I can see what you mean. I'm only shooting Jpegs which could be a reason. I'll have a play with the processing and see whether I'm able to do anything about it, but might be beyond my skill set!
I've had another go at processing number 81 and I can get it a bit better but it's still not brill.:doh:
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I've had a go at processing a picture taken during the cloudier part of the day i.e. not in direct sunlight, and it shows a bit more detail but still not a lot.

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Having spent an hour or so having a look at my pictures containing white helmets and blown highlights, which TBH I'd not noticed before, I think it has to be a matter of getting the exposure sorted in the first place as, for me anyway, it's impossible to recover what's not there in the unprocessed image.

As you say when the rest of the picture is correctly exposed "how do you resolve the blown bit"? The only solutions I can think of, in addition to bagrphotography's exposure compensation suggestion could be :-
  • spot meter on helmet, although this may be too much dynamic range for the rest of the picture, or perhaps
  • use a polarising filter to cut the reflecting glare from the white helmet. The only downside for me would be the 1-3 stop impact on exposure and the corresponding increase in ISO level, or
  • shoot in raw and hope more detail is originally captured.
At the moment I am just happy that I am getting some pictures in focus. ;)
 

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No probs.

When shooting Jpg, white will always suffer unless (from my experience) you shoot at least 1/2 stop under. At least.
And your white-balance is basically set too. (during JPG). For my last motorsport events.. (well, everything since mmmmm... October last year? ) I have shot RAW+JPG, even with motorbikes. It allows me to have a JPG if I need to quickly send something out, or I can make a preset and batch-develop images in Silkypix (Panasonic default raw software)

Btw.. I am Jonathan :D
 

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If you're shooting JPGS, set the display to show High lights and Low lights. Anything in orange is over exposed and anything blue is under exposed. You can set the values for where things show orange or blue. RAW may be better for recovering blown highlights, but it takes less messing around if the exposure is better to begin with.
 

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Yep.. Agreed. I also have the histogram loaded too.
I also flick the camera to 'actual live view' occasionally, to see what the camera is actually 'recording', if that makes sense..
 

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I've been going through old photos and seeing if I missed any decent shots, or just am re-editing.

I found this one that I guess I looked over when culling.

Not the sharpest shot, but not bad for a $99 plastic lens. It's my favorite car so I like it.

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I re-edited this one a bit. I love getting sharp shots like this at 1/10.

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I've been going through old photos and seeing if I missed any decent shots, or just am re-editing.

I found this one that I guess I looked over when culling.

Not the sharpest shot, but not bad for a $99 plastic lens. It's my favorite car so I like it.

View attachment 851906P7208074.jpg by Paul Wolanski, on Flickr
Great shots! I miss those Fords! it's a shame they weren't offered to privateers after the head office pulled them out.
 

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Making the most of the motorsport events still open to the public before more stringent lockdowns are introduced. This time was a trip to an overcast Donington Park to see several races for Caterhams plus a chance to see a TCR (touring car) race. I'm really enjoying the EM1 II especially its' AFC and burst mode and mated with my Olympus 75-300 I have the ideal size and weight outfit for cold days. Whilst the Caterhams had some of the closest racing I've seen in a long while, for a change I thought I'd show some of the story of the touring car race.

The first lap of the first race, where I'd already photographed the leaders going through, I was following through my pan on mid field runner #21 before catching up with an earlier spin ....
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... then on the first lap of the restarted race, the two leaders (in the first corner) had a little nudge ....
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... which meant that both lost the lead thus requiring a "push to pass" a bit later in the race
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... and finishing second (#38) and third (101).

All the above were from much longer sequences and I'm delighted at the number of images which were in focus. I wouldn't have discovered these EM1 II qualities without the latest offer of the "free" (now sold) f1.2 lens - Thank You Olympus!
 

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Sweeet.
But boring-as-photo found from an official report here... https://www.tcr-series.com/news/item/hart-wins-tcr-uk-s-final-race-but-kent-is-the-champion
I wonder which has more punch. But Editorial can be the 'winner' ?

I needed to find out what the make of the 101 car was.. a CUPRA which is a new one on me down here.

Thank goodness that the 'black&white' car of Docker was already moving backwards - the collision would have been so-much-worse for both of them.

The TCR champ looks like he loves a bit of close-contact.
 

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Those Spanish Chariots are incredibly uncommon 'down under'. Difficult enough to see a Skoda let alone a SEAT. i30s, Golfs and WRXs we see a plenty.
Waiting for the new GR Yaris for this year.. :)
 

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Looking at the forecast for this weekend, I think my final outing this year will have been last Sunday's return trip to Cadwell Park. A cold and windy day albeit with low winter sun allowed me to photograph some bikes in the Thundersport series. The majority of accessible locations require a long telephoto lens, although I did try out a couple of (new to me) closer locations.

Still enjoying my lighter weight kit of the EM1 II with the 75-300 although a slight hiccup (Issue with EM1 II ) did make me wonder whether my EM1 II has a shutter problem and I am going to have to make a warranty claim in the near future :frown:. I also managed a couple of races with my heavier kit and my recent Ebay acquisition of a used Viltrox EF-M1 for my Canon 70-200.

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Nice sharp punchy pictures as usual @Kae1 👍
From what I saw of reports about the Thundersports it was wet and windy there at Cadwell ?
Anyway that’s another season over with then - and the long wait over the winter for a better one to start next year hopefully
I have one potential event left which I might make it to at the weekend - Truck racing at Thruxton
Not my usual cup of tea but have never been and Thruxton is only half an hour up the road after getting off the ferry
Don’t know if you read my other threads but I’ve ventured into FF and I’ve just had notice of the impending delivery of my Nikon 70-200 ahead of the previously expected date so will probably make the effort so I can try that out on the Nikon Z6 (depending also on the weather changing for the better)
Will hopefully be able to meet up at an event next year :2thumbs:
 

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Nice sharp punchy pictures as usual @Kae1 👍
From what I saw of reports about the Thundersports it was wet and windy there at Cadwell ?
Anyway that’s another season over with then - and the long wait over the winter for a better one to start next year hopefully
I have one potential event left which I might make it to at the weekend - Truck racing at Thruxton
Thanks for the positive comment Rob - the EM1 II captures better focus with the Olympus 75-300 then I've achieved before and I'm amazed what a bit of post processing can do :thumbsup: .
I saw the forecast for Saturday at Cadwell and decided that Sunday was the better day, which it was - still windy and cold but at least dry and sunny intervals.
Fingers crossed for your weekend - I've seen Truck racing before at Brands and it is certainly different - the support races are usually colourful too.

Will hopefully be able to meet up at an event next year :2thumbs:
Sounds good to me - I'll recognise you as the one with the massive lens and muscles like Popeye;)
 

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Nice sharp punchy pictures as usual @Kae1 👍
From what I saw of reports about the Thundersports it was wet and windy there at Cadwell ?
Anyway that’s another season over with then - and the long wait over the winter for a better one to start next year hopefully
I have one potential event left which I might make it to at the weekend - Truck racing at Thruxton
Not my usual cup of tea but have never been and Thruxton is only half an hour up the road after getting off the ferry
Don’t know if you read my other threads but I’ve ventured into FF and I’ve just had notice of the impending delivery of my Nikon 70-200 ahead of the previously expected date so will probably make the effort so I can try that out on the Nikon Z6 (depending also on the weather changing for the better)
Will hopefully be able to meet up at an event next year :2thumbs:
Rob - Take notice of how the Z6 tracks/focuses for you. There is a Nikon D5 user here in Perth who really wanted the new (mirrorless) Nikons but sold it nearly immediately because the focus system was not as reliable or robust as his DSLR.
On the other side of things, the new Canon mirrorless seems to be fantastic.

I don't know as I still have the meh focusing of the G85. A lot of my images from the weekend just gone were Manual focus rather than autofocus continuous. https://bagrphotography.smugmug.com...iteman-Park-Barbagallo-Ellenbrook/i-xQDMDXv/A
 

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I don't know as I still have the meh focusing of the G85. A lot of my images from the weekend just gone were Manual focus rather than autofocus continuous. https://bagrphotography.smugmug.com...iteman-Park-Barbagallo-Ellenbrook/i-xQDMDXv/A
Just had a look at your images, Jonathan - very nice indeed and certainly gives the impression of speed👍. That's the beauty of rallying as the background is usually colourful and foreground becomes a blur and not a distraction.

Do you know which of the images on your link were taken with autofocus? Since moving to m4/3* I expected/hoped CAF on my cameras would cope with anything I threw at it. (* I knew my previous Pentax wasn't very good so used manual focus anyway).

Re-discovering manual focusing and looking at the images I'd taken showed me the impact of :
  • my "technique" (the car/bike was not under the exact focus point(s) so how could the camera's CAF & posh algorithms be expected to cope?) and
  • the "science" i.e. the angle of the car/bike in relation to the camera impacts on which bit(s) will be in focus and sharp, its not the equipment's shortcomings.
Apart from currently testing out the capabilities of the EM1 II, I now have more sympathy (lower expectations?) of the capability of the cameras and lenses within my budget and use a mixture of CAF and manual focus depending on the circumstances.

I'm learning, at my ripe old age, that there's more to motorsport photography than just P&S (pray and spray / pointing and shooting) :blush:. I need to think (will CAF work here?), adjust the exposure settings (not just shutter speed), remember (which is getting harder to do) what worked/didn't work before and then click. I just want to get out there and photograph. The only problem is the limited motorsport in the UK is now coming to a (later than normal) end, although there are a couple of circuit stage rallies which may be attend-able subject to lockdown and weather. Perhaps I need to move to Australia for the summer?😎
 

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None of the images on that page were Auto focus.
The race that you saw there/see there is all Tarmac/closed-road racing. If there is dirt involved then the drivers are doing it wrong :D

edit- regarding focusing points from the G85 - I find that I can have the focusing point bang-on and still the camera will go "heeeeey. We should check out the back ground..... Oh, wait.. the foreground. This dust is incredible!" etc
 

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