Ming Thein on "The Demise of the DSLR"

Discussion in 'Other Systems' started by profgregorio, Aug 24, 2013.

  1. profgregorio

    profgregorio Mu-43 Regular

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  2. uscrx

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    Good read and the comments are excellent also
     
  3. Jonathan F/2

    Jonathan F/2 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

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    I really dislike these types of articles. Just because Ming Thein can shoot most his clinical work with an OM-D, doesn't mean another photographer can. Just another doom & gloom piece to attract web hits. Just as annoying as the other dude predicting the end of M43.
     
  4. kinlau

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    That also pretty means we'll all be shooting with cell phone cameras as soon as they are 'good enough'.
     
  5. drd1135

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    Steve
    Shhhhh.:shhh: We never mention this. Ever.
     
  6. drd1135

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    Steve
    JMHO. I agree that MILC will replace DSLR in the long run for mainly size and price reasons. I'm far less sure about sensor size however. I bet the "pros" will use FF, which will become like Medium Format in the film days. Yes, the lenses are bigger but a smaller body will save you something and FF pancakes are very realistic. I think the real fight will be for the new "35 mm", which will be between APS-C and mu43. Of course, better technology could also make the 1 inch sensor a possibility.
     
  7. pbasswil

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    Look at the history of camera gear. Systems evolve, come into favour, fade into disfavour.

    But it's hard to predict, when you're in midstream (i.e., looking at the present around us rather than looking back).

    One thing's for sure, outside of Japan, the majority of people are moving toward cell phones, and DSLRs.

    That doesn't mean there's no room for everything in between (including mirrorless); it just means the global market isn't huge, and that research & development budgets can't continue at current levels indefinitely unless there is a noticeable change in market trends.

    Meanwhile, we can all enjoy the amazing new m4/3 models that continue to tantalize us!

    For me personally, a cell phone camera will never be enough. Even if/when m4/3 collapsed and faded, I wouldn't be tempted to abandon my current Pen unless something better came along at similar or smaller size.
     
  8. uscrx

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    My anecdotal experience tells me too many people own DSLR for it to be demised.

    I rarely ever see another u43 user anywhere. I do see some NEX users.

    Most every tourist is carrying a DSLR with a kit lens.

    Once in a while I would see a DSLR with an upgrade lens.

    Wedding/Portrait photographers use DSLR.

    u43 users are the outliers not the other way around.
     
  9. uscrx

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    I actually see more people taking pictures with a full blown iPad than u43.

    It just looks stupid.... but...


    :biggrin:
     
  10. Ulfric M Douglas

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    Using a DSLR gives a slightly different experience to using a MILF camera, even with EVF : so DSLRs will always have their place as a preferred unit for some.
     
  11. uscrx

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    Hmmmm.....


    :evilsmile:
     
  12. Ulfric M Douglas

    Ulfric M Douglas Mu-43 Hall of Famer

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    Mirrorless. Interchangeable. Lens. Format.
     
  13. CiaranCReilly

    CiaranCReilly Mu-43 Veteran

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    Hats off to MT for creating a good click-bait article perfectly tailored to his audience, but two interesting things stood out:

    What will happen to the thousands of entry-level DSLRs floating around five or ten years from now? I think they will become paperweights, like VCRs and portable CD players, because of their limited utility compared to current-gen mirrorless and compacts and costly repairs.

    We are in a significant era for photography. As uscrx said, in the wild there are more people taking photos with iPads (which are personal computers in effect) than m43, and more people using cellphones than DSLRs. Everyone has a great camera in their pocket or bag. When phone cameras completely displace compacts (not yet but soon), camera manufacturers will need to sell to us based on user experience, feel and ergonomics, not image quality. I think Olympus are ahead of the game here, Ricoh too and I definitely think the Leica X Vario is a camera ahead of its time (and price range).
     
  14. pbasswil

    pbasswil Mu-43 Regular

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    There are several acronyms for the mirrorless category of camera. "Milf" is not a good bet -- it's taken!
     
  15. uscrx

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    It's MILC

    Mirrorless Interchangeable Lens Camera..

    Still it doesn't sound right.

    I think we should go with DSLM

    Digital Single Lens Mirrorless
     
  16. darosk

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    Saying that DSLRs "are in their twilight" is like saying all humans will eventually die one day. You'd be right - but it's not exactly an epiphany or a revelation from the gods or anything. In a field as technologically-driven as photography is, the progression of camera gear from prominence into obscurity is as natural as breathing.
     
  17. uscrx

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    And DSLM is trademarked by Panasonic since 2012.
     
  18. drd1135

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    Steve
    Like me, I'm sure some of you remember the arguments around 2000 about whether digital would replace film. Very few would have believed how far ahead digital would have been ten years later. Given the relatively short lifespan of modern cameras, change could be sudden and quick once it starts. The biggest barrier, imho, is that the two biggest makers of cameras are heavily invested in DSLRs. Canon and Nikon could hold this at bay for quite a while.
     
  19. RT_Panther

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    Then there's what Sony is doing :smile:
     
  20. drd1135

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    Yeah, Sony. That new $300 bridge camera body is a real shot across the bow. Sony has the clout to get into big box stores, and it could be attractive to the low end DSLR buyer.