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Lightroom and Photoshop, Do I Need Elements?

Discussion in 'Image Processing' started by Harvey Melvin Richards, Oct 12, 2014.

  1. Harvey Melvin Richards

    Harvey Melvin Richards Photo Posting Junkie

    Feb 15, 2014
    Southwest Utah
    I have used PSE 6 since it was released, mostly for organizing my 25,000+ photos. It won't read a lot of the newer EXIF data, so I tempted to get a newer version. I currently have the subscription to Lightroom and Photoshop. I have tried to figure out what each offers, but it makes my head hurt. If I get PSE 13, do I gain anything over LR and PS?
     
  2. dougjgreen

    dougjgreen Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jun 5, 2013
    San Diego
    Doug Green
    Well, there's nothing Elements can do that Photoshop doesn't do. Except allow you not to pay for a perpetual subscription.
     
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  3. GBarrington

    GBarrington Mu-43 Veteran

    I think Elements has some scrapbooking tools lacking in Photoshop proper . . .
     
  4. RamblinR

    RamblinR Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Aug 16, 2012
    Sunshine Coast, Qld Australia
    Maria
    I use Lightroom 5 along with Elements 10. I adjust in lightroom and then send the file out to elements as a tiff (this is done automatically between the programs) if I need to work on it over there. Lightroom adds this new file to the folder so if I just save what I have done in elements and close that program, when I go back to lightroom there it is with all the changes. My elements is to old to read my RAW olympus files but if I work it this way I don't need to upgrade which is just as well as I don't use it enough to warrant upgrading. Lightroom is great and can be purchased outside the CC which is even better.
     
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  5. mcasan

    mcasan Mu-43 All-Pro

    Feb 26, 2014
    Atlanta
    PSE is basically a stripped down version of PS. If you already have LR and PS....no need for PSE. Instead try a totally new set of plugins such as the Nik Collection or Perfect Photo Suite.
     
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  6. finerflower

    finerflower Amin Fangrrl

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    Dec 11, 2013
    New Jersey (South)
    Holly
    Harvey,

    I love lightroom, if you have the ps & lr bundle like I have, then there really is no need for elements.

    Having said that, Photoshop, to me, is so complex that I never seem to get anywhere. PSE may be simpler to use, and simplicity may be a easier pill to swallow.

    Lightroom is great for cataloging photos. Have you had any success so far?
     
  7. Harvey Melvin Richards

    Harvey Melvin Richards Photo Posting Junkie

    Feb 15, 2014
    Southwest Utah
    I am getting there with the success. I imported my catalog from PSE 6 to LR. PSE 6 couldn't read the ORF's, so none of them were imported. I have been slowly updating and re-importing. LR also was having difficulty with my older catalogs, so once again I'm slowly updating them. I do like the tags in LR better than PSE 13, but I did like them OK in PSE 6.

    As a total side note, how do you rotate an image 180° in LR? The most I can manage is with the crop tool and only 45°.
     
  8. dccase

    dccase Mu-43 Regular

    85
    Feb 25, 2014
    Massachusetts, USA
    The Rotate and Flip options are under the Photo menu on the main menu.
     
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  9. robbie36

    robbie36 Mu-43 All-Pro

    Sep 25, 2010
    Bangkok
    rob collins
    Really, I would wean yourself off PSE if you are happy to afford the LR/PS CC program.

    LR is a much more powerful DAM and PS is a much more powerful photo editor. But really the most important thing is this. Both LR and PS have almost infinite 'how to' help on the internet in terms of videos/tutorials/blogs. Any problems you run into transitioning from PSE can easily be sorted on the internet and you will soon find capability in these programs that isnt in PSE.
     
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  10. Replytoken

    Replytoken Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    May 7, 2012
    Puget Sound
    Ken
    I have PSE* and find it to be a horrible program to use. I asked a PS user if PS was as bad, and they replied that PSE is the worst of simplicity and PS combined. I suspect that PS does have a long learning curve, but PSE's was not short or intuitive. If you are going to invest the time and have access to PS, I would strongly consider devoting your time and attention to it.

    Good luck,

    --Ken
     
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  11. yakky

    yakky Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Jul 1, 2013
    IMO Lightroom is the superior photo management tool, well worth learning. Photoshop is the superior editor.

    If all you do is minor adjustments and a touchup here and there,Lighrtoom is all you need. People who heavily edit photos need Photoshop.