Life Pro Tip - Be careful how you store your lenses (E-M1 mark 1 screen replacement)

Lee Perrins

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So, the thing I learned today is that now I have the 50-200 2.8/3.5 I need a bigger camera bag - or at the very least I need to pay attention so that the tripod mount on the lens is not touching the camera in the bag I already have. There is only so much a screen protector can deal with ...

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I also have an E-M10 and it seems like the screens are the same, so I've just partially stripped down the M10 to swap the screens over because I'm too impatient to wait for a replacement to arrive, but there is a lot of tape and sticky stuff holding the screen and circuit boards in place and it will never stick back quite the same, so I've decided discretion is the better part of valour and put the M10 back together and have ordered a new screen for the E-M1. Obviously I can use it with just the viewfinder for now, although you can't change anything in the menus.

I'll post 'how to replace the screen' images when the new one arrives.
 

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That is a disaster. It's a reminder to everyone that our camera gear is delicate - regardless of weathersealing etc. Maybe the flippy screen on the Mark 2 wasn't such a terrible idea after all?

It's been almost three years, but I am still not over breaking my Nisi 150mm square polariser into pieces. Should have paid the extra for a proper filter case.
 

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That is a disaster. It's a reminder to everyone that our camera gear is delicate - regardless of weathersealing etc. Maybe the flippy screen on the Mark 2 wasn't such a terrible idea after all?

It's been almost three years, but I am still not over breaking my Nisi 150mm square polariser into pieces. Should have paid the extra for a proper filter case.
It's not so bad - a new screen was only £22, I just have to wait a few weeks for it to ship, and I can use the viewfinder in the meantime. Replacing it seems like it is quite straightforward, if a little fiddly.

Breaking a Nisi filter is definitely a disaster though!
 

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Holy shit, wow. I'll definitely have to keep this in mind when finally get a second lens.

The tilting LCD of my C-7070WZ cracked after pulling it out too many times, but that was over 10 years, and the damage was minor compared to your E-M1. I just had to tape it and glue it back together but it works fine now. Magnesium alloy body? Oops, not quite.

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The tilting, flipping out screen of my E-3 has been held together with half a tube of plastic cement for years
 

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I've been lucky with my dSLRs. All have similar unprotected rear screens.
Digital is very different from SLRs, where the back was simply metal.

For the same reason, I've started to flip around the screen of my EM1-mk2, so that the screen is facing in, when stored. To give it some degree of protection. But I think it is still vulnerable to impact.
 

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Obviously I can use it with just the viewfinder for now, although you can't change anything in the menus.
I don't have my E-M1.1 on hand but I think I recall if you are in the menus and press the monitor button (the one that switched between EVF and back LCD) it switches the menu from the back LCD into the EVF?
 

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I don't have my E-M1.1 on hand but I think I recall if you are in the menus and press the monitor button (the one that switched between EVF and back LCD) it switches the menu from the back LCD into the EVF?
I thought it did that too but it shows (or tries to show) the menu on the main screen regardless - my E-M10 does the same, and I was sure that allowed you menu access with the viewfinder too! Maybe there is a setting somewhere?
 

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My replacement screen has been dispatched apparently. Hopefully transit won’t take too long.
 

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It's not so bad - a new screen was only £22, I just have to wait a few weeks for it to ship, and I can use the viewfinder in the meantime. Replacing it seems like it is quite straightforward, if a little fiddly.

Breaking a Nisi filter is definitely a disaster though!
I broke the touchscreen on my car and let's just say it's a lot more expensive than 20 quid. Not recommended.

And no, I do not wish to discuss how this happened. Too embarrassing.
 
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I've been lucky with my dSLRs. All have similar unprotected rear screens.
Digital is very different from SLRs, where the back was simply metal.

For the same reason, I've started to flip around the screen of my EM1-mk2, so that the screen is facing in, when stored. To give it some degree of protection. But I think it is still vulnerable to impact.
Can't beat padding to separate your gear.

Back when I had just a camera plus a lens or two, I would wrap my camera and walkaround lens in an OpTech Digital-D pouch and carry another lens in a Snoot Boot lens pouch, clipped to my sling. Kept them protected from light bumps and occasional drizzle. Sometimes, that's all I needed. Those are still useful for protecting gear dropped into an unpadded backpack or messenger bag.
 
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Right, so the new screen arrived today, so I took apart the E-M1

It's much better put together than the E-M10, which is another way of saying it's harder to take apart.

The screen has to come out the front of the frame which means levering it out (carefiully) from the front. You still need to remove screws to take the back off the display so you can disconnect it all. No pictures of those, I'll take some when I'm putting it back together and pretend they were from when I was taking it apart :)

In my case the (now several years old) 1mm double sided sticky tape stuff holding the screen in place came apart on removal so I've had to order some more, which should arrive tomorrow. It's on a roll so I will need to cut it to length, so the corners won't be as neat as with the single bespoke piece Olympus have used, but it should be ok.

You can see what is left of the original mounting tape below.

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These are the two screens - on the bottom the broken one as it came out the camera and the new one on top. The black tape on the top right corner and the square of tape are single sided. The square just keep the cable tidy. I don't know what the bit on the top right does, but I moved it over anyway.

The tape under the circuit board is double sided and holds the circuit board and the ribbon cable in place. Presumably it also insulates the back of the circuit board from the metal back of the screen?

Anyway, I can't get this tape off so I need to source some double sided tape as well tomorrow. Anyone else doing this will almost certainly need some too - the single sided tape is easy enough to peel off and reuse but the double sided stuff is impossible to get off in one piece.

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Final update on this - the screen is now re-fitted.

The tools I found most useful:

  • Small crosshead screwdriver size P0
  • Swiss Army knife
  • (small blade for levering out the old screen, tweezers for removing old sticky stuff, back of tooth pick for smoothing down new sticky stuff, blunt bit of screwdriver / can opener for helping to shift old sticky stuff)
  • Scalpel (for cutting tape, especially the 1mm double sided stuff)

Your mileage may vary of course

Things I needed:
  • new screen
  • double sided tape to hold the circuit board in place (mine is labelled as 'carpet tape')
  • electrical tape (although you can re-use the black tape, it loses quite a lot of stickiness so best to replace it)

Things I learned

The circuit board has to line up with the depression in the back (hashed area, second image) and the little (tiny!) spongy thing (ringed in first image) has to fit exactly through the hole (red dot, second image) The first time I did it the spongy thing didn't line up properly so the screen wasn't flush.

I found it easier to stick this spongy thing on from the back of the display by using tweezers to place it through the hole, once the back was in place.

The tape on the top right of the screen that I previously said I wasn't sure wha tit was for is to insulate the screen from the copper tape (arrowed) I guess,
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And finally, here it is working again. It still has the screen protector on, which has a bit of glue from the tape on it. I've left the camera with the screen flat against a bookshelf with a few books on top just to make sure the screen is sealed in ok.

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Another update on this in case anyone finds it and follows the advice - the screen started to pop out again at the bottom right corner - this is where the ribbon cable folds over to the back of the screen, held in place with the black square of tape on the back of the original screen.

I think there was too much 'spring' in the cable of my new screen, which over the last week has gradually overcome the strength of the tape. So if you have found this via a search and are following the instructions, make sure you use new electrical tape to hold down the cables in that corner, and make sure they are as flat as they can be.

Then, when you have put it all together, you need to clamp it together so it sticks properly. By chance I overheard this advice in a phone repair shop earlier this week; a customer had come in to collect their phone and the guy told him he was too early - his screen was still in clamps while the glue set. It occurred to me that I just stuck the screen down and held it in place by hand for about 30 seconds!

I've taken the screen out again and replaced all the tape and it's now got a spring clamp on each corner (with some card on the screen to stop it scratching) and clothes pegs in the middle of each side. I'm going to lave it like that until I next need the camera (maybe tomorrow afternoon - it's school holidays after all) but it's going to be clamped at least overnight. If there are no more updates, it worked :)
 

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