Lens suggestion for a very specific event

Discussion in 'Olympus Cameras' started by AttackDonut, Aug 19, 2015.

  1. AttackDonut

    AttackDonut Mu-43 Rookie

    Jul 22, 2015
    Specifically, I am a concert photographer. On my Nikon D2x, I used 3 lenses, a 70-200 f/2.8, 50 f/1.8 and 17-35 f/2.8. All of these are great lenses, expensive and heavy.

    Having tried out the EM5 for concert work, I'm in love, and want to explore more with it in a concert setting. I was fortunate the concert I shot was in the daytime, as the lenses I have for the Oly are the 40-150 f/4-5.6 (not fast) and the 14-42 f/4-5.6 (I think anyway) also not fast.

    So, need some good glass for indoor work. Not entirely certain what my options are. Typically with a media pass, I get right up front to the action, so wider rather than long I think would be my initial preference, but I'm open to suggestions.
  2. dornblaser

    dornblaser Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Aug 13, 2012
    David Dornblaser
    The O45 comes immediately to mind.
  3. Hendrik

    Hendrik Mu-43 Top Veteran Subscribing Member

    Feb 27, 2015
    Wayland MA
    From what I've read, the D2x and E-M5 are not substantially different in the dark. If you will be shooting in equivalent lighting and you found the 2.8 lenses entirely satisfactory (other than bulk and weight), then you might consider the O Pro 2.8 zooms. For m4/3 they are similarly bulky, weighty and expensive but the image quality is second to none. They are still easier to manage than the big glass you used. If you're not dealing with bright stadium lighting and 2.8 is cutting it thin, then consider any of the 1.8 (or 1.4) primes in the focal lengths you need. I've shot the E-M5 in dark churches in regular altar lighting with the O45 and O75 and have been very pleased with the results. In dim domestic lighting they are the only reasonable options short of flash or bailing to a D600 or better.
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  4. AttackDonut

    AttackDonut Mu-43 Rookie

    Jul 22, 2015
    Thank you for the thoughts. One thing that I'm still unclear on. The aforementioned 45mm f/1.8. Is the field of view the *same* as a 90mm on a full frame camera, in which case the 90mm is too long for what I need. Or is the field of view 45mm the same on each camera? Help a fellow out!
  5. dornblaser

    dornblaser Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Aug 13, 2012
    David Dornblaser
    It is 90mm on FF.
  6. AttackDonut

    AttackDonut Mu-43 Rookie

    Jul 22, 2015
    BTW, Hendrik,

    Can you show me links to this em5 vs d2x? Because the tests I've done show substantially better ISO/noise handling in the em5 than the d2x.
  7. gryphon1911

    gryphon1911 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 13, 2014
    Central Ohio, USA
    You can rule the world with 2 of these 4 lenses:

    Olympus 12-40/2.8 and 40-150/2.8
    Panasonic 12-35/2.8 and 35-100/2.8

    If you think you'll need something faster(aperture wise), you can also look into the 17/1.8, 25/1.8 and 45/1.8
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  8. Lawrence A.

    Lawrence A. Mu-43 All-Pro

    Mar 14, 2012
    New Mexico
    If 90 EVF is too long, what about one of the m4/3 25mm, equivalent to a 50. I've used both the Panasonic/Leica 25mm f1.4 and the Olympus f1.8. They render differently, but both are very, very nice lenses. The PL has a tad more center sharpness, but has more fall-off toward the edges, nothing most of us are going to notice much in either case. If I were thinking of concerts, I'd probably go for the PL, which has a kind of magic to its rendering. The Olympus is a stellar performer, though, and a bit less expensive; with current rebates it's going for around $300.

    Oh! and the m. Zuiko 12-40 f2.8 is amazing. High iso performance is good enough on the E-M5 that the slower maximum aperture shouldn't be a problem.
  9. ahinesdesign

    ahinesdesign Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Dec 6, 2011
    NC, USA
    The focal length of an m4/3 lens doubled gives you the 35mm "full frame" equivalent.

    The 1.4/1.7/1.8 primes (15, 17, 20, 25mm) are all really good, although the Panasonic 20mm might not focus quickly enough for some uses. I have personally used the 20mm for concerts and its good for static subjects. The 2.8 Pro zooms are all fantastic for concerts and events, especially the Olympus 12-40 and Panasonic 12-35. The 8mm f1.8 fisheye might be a fun ultrawide for concerts, too. Less costly options include the 14 f2.5, 17 f2.8, Sigma 19, and 30 f2.8.
  10. ahinesdesign

    ahinesdesign Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Dec 6, 2011
    NC, USA
    Forgot to mention that if you are ok with manual focus there are additional options:

    Kowa 8.5mm 2.8, Voigtlander 10.5, 17.5, and 25mm 0.95, plus some others from SLR Magic and Mitakon...
  11. Carbonman

    Carbonman Mu-43 All-Pro Subscribing Member

    Jul 10, 2014
    Vancouver BC
    The 12-40 f2.8 Pro (same angle of view as FF 24-80) will probably be perfect for your needs. As Hendrik says, "image quality is second to none." If you require a wider field of view, the 7-14 f2.8 (AoV FF 14-28) will cover the very wide end. If weight and cost are considerations, the 7-14 and Oly 25 f1.8 covers most of what you seem to be looking for.
  12. Ulfric M Douglas

    Ulfric M Douglas Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 6, 2010
    If close up (but not too close) I suggest either 25mm lens from Olympus or Panasonic.
  13. tkbslc

    tkbslc Mu-43 Legend

    What's your budget like?

    On the cheaper end (<$300), we have Samyang 7.5mm f3.5 fisheye (for REALLY close), Panasonic 14mm f2.5 (11mm wide angle adapter available), Olympus 17mm f2.8, Sigma 19mm f2.8 Panasonic 20mm f1.7, Olympus 25mm f1.8

    More expensive options: Olympus 12mm f2.0, Panasonic 15mm f1.7, Olympus 17mm f1.8, Panasonic 25mm f1.4, 12-35mm f2.8 or 12-40mm f2.8 and several manual options from Voigtlander and SLR Magic as fast as f0.95 if that's your thing
  14. AttackDonut

    AttackDonut Mu-43 Rookie

    Jul 22, 2015
    Budget is less importance than usefulness. Having said that, I don't need to drop the equivalent of the Nikon 70-200 f/2.8 again if I can at all help it...
  15. mryon

    mryon New to Mu-43

    Jul 30, 2012
    Take a look at these pictures I shot with am EM 5 and the 25 1.8 and 45 1.8. Small compact and fast.

  16. eteless

    eteless Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jun 20, 2014
    The 12-40mm f2.8 from Olympus and 35-100mm f2.8 from Panasonic would be my bet, the panasonic lens is pretty small compared to the Olympus offering (although shorter focal length, however it's basically the same as the 70-200 you've worked with in the past).

    Both are fine lenses.

    Edit: For a prime I would personally use the 20mm pancake, it's a little bit shorter than the 50 you've used in the past however the size of it means you always have it in your bag and it's a pretty good focal length for up close but not in their faces.
    If you didn't want a pancake any of the 25mm options are fantastic.
  17. bassman

    bassman Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Apr 22, 2013
    New Jersey
    The Bassman
    The D2X is a DX camera. The equivalent FLs in m43 to your three in terms of field of view are 52-150, 37 and 12-24.

    For the 37 your closed would be the Sigma 30/2.8. I'd personally go with one of the excellent 25mm lenses, the Panasonic 25/1.4 and the Olympus 25/1.8. Both are great.

    The 12-24 is covered by the Panasonic 12-35/2.8 or the Olympus 12-40/2.8.

    The 52-150 is covered by the Olympus 40-150/2.8.

    While the Panasonic zooms are stabilized, the Olympus are not. But your E-M5 has in-body stabilization with any lens.
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  18. T N Args

    T N Args Agent Photocateur

    Dec 3, 2013
    Adelaide, Australia
    call me Arg
    If the above lenses are just right for your needs, then the nearest m43 equivalents would be

    Lumix 35-100mm f/2.8 (360g) instead of 70-200/2.8

    Leica 25mm f/1.4 (200g) instead of 50/1.8

    m.Zuiko 7-14mm f/2.8 (530g) instead of 17-35/2.8
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  19. tyrphoto

    tyrphoto Mu-43 All-Pro

    May 25, 2014
    Seoul | NYC
    If you're shooting in low light, you really want the fastest lens you can get. Also, if you're in the pit, 90mm will be good for close shots but otherwise is a little long depending on how large the stage is. Personally, I'd go wider rather than longer. A 28/50/90 combo would be ideal. You could use the O12-40/2.8 but my concern would be high ISO if it's dark as you could easily push ISO 6400 to get ideal shutter speeds.

    This is from last year, right up in the pit at an outdoor event that started in the early evening and went on for about four hours. Basically shot the whole concert with 28/90 focal lengths. The first image was the from the first act and the other two are from the end of the evening where it was near pitch dark except for stage lights.

    90mm @ f1.8

    28mm @ f1.9

    28mm @ f1.9
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  20. ashburtononline

    ashburtononline Mu-43 Veteran

    Jan 21, 2015
    New Zealand
    I shoot a lot of theatre and I use a Nocticron and 75 f1.8 ... legends. The 40-150 f2.8 is AWESOME too .... for wide shots, 12-40 f2.8 rules !
    Last edited: Aug 20, 2015
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