Lens frustration

Discussion in 'Native Lenses' started by yakky, Dec 23, 2013.

  1. yakky

    yakky Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Jul 1, 2013
    So I'm sitting here looking at a fuji x-e1 with the 18-55 wondering if I should break the seal. If there was an M43 lens that was moderately fast and fairly sharp under $600, this post wouldn't be here.

    Yes I understand that both the Panasonic 12-35 and Oly 14-40 are pro class glass and weather sealed. Something I don't need. I still shoot Nikon DSLRs and am a huge fan of the Tamron 17-50 (non VR), in fact that lens has followed me through a couple of systems.

    Why oh why can't there be an equivalent in the M43 world.
  2. Replytoken

    Replytoken Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    May 7, 2012
    Puget Sound
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    The 14-45 is not fast, but it has a loyal following for its IQ. Is this too slow for your needs?

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  3. flash

    flash Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Apr 29, 2010
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    How about a 4/3 14-54II? A much better lens, optically than the Fuji, fast. Focises OK on any m43 body and very well on the EM1.

    Downsides are the size ( but not weight) and you'll need an adaptor factored into the price.

    Having said that, the XE1 is a lot of fun to shoot if your preference is a considered approach to shooting.

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  4. Ranger Rick

    Ranger Rick Mu-43 Veteran

    Apr 11, 2009
    Tempe, AZ
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    I had the 14-54 Mk II until recently, replaced with the 12-40 Oly (decided I really wanted the wider 2mm). The 14-54 is actually a bit shorter than the 12-40! Of course, that is without the adapter, but the adapted 14-54 is in total longer than the 12-40 by less than the depth of the adapter.
  5. pix530

    pix530 Mu-43 Regular

    Oct 2, 2013
    18-55 is not a great lens, its just ok and it is good as kit lens only.

    I bought 35-100 as micro lens to my 70-200. And yes I don't need weather sealing. I smile when people tell me they do need it because I know they do not )
    And yes I paid for IS that is useless due to my best IS in Oly body.
    And yes I paid solid sum of money. But the lens is very good for some of my shootings. Unfortunately not as good as double priced and 6 times heavier 70-200.

    If you want good zoom you need to invest some money. Just spend some $$$ on 12-35 or 12-40.
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  6. yakky

    yakky Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Jul 1, 2013
    Thanks guys, yeah, the 14-45 is a bit too slow for me, especially at the zoom end. These days I'll trade speed vs absolute sharpness and a bit less DOF when I need isolation.

    Pix530, what don't you like about the 18-55?

    FWIW, still haven't opened it.....
  7. pix530

    pix530 Mu-43 Regular

    Oct 2, 2013
    As I said 18-55 is ok lens, but after I shoot with 35mm and shoot together, i just cant shoot with 18-55 anymore. Day and night.
    Yes I know its not direct comparison but for me it is just not good constant IQ, not good enough I mean.

    What you can do with this lens is to produce ok results, sometimes. Not super stable results. Mine was FW upgraded to latest version.

    However, I must say it is best kit zoom I had, except 24-105, which is much much better.

    If you compare to 17-50 I'd say you may find it ok. Just not working for me, might work for you.
  8. Amin Sabet

    Amin Sabet Administrator

    Apr 10, 2009
    Boston, MA (USA)
    It's really too bad Tamron didn't take more of an interest in our system. They've done some really nice lenses at an attractive price point for other systems!
  9. broody

    broody Mu-43 Veteran

    Sep 8, 2013
    I've noticed it too. There's a hole in the M43 lineup for a faster zoom that doesn't cost $1000. I don't think we'll see one until a 3rd party maker gets more commited to the M43 system. Just like with Canikon, the main reason Panny and Oly won't release one themselves is likely that they *want* you to purchase their most expensize zooms, and they would undermine themselves by releasing a budget option.
  10. daggah

    daggah Mu-43 Regular

    Feb 28, 2013
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    Maybe there's room for a constant f/4 or a 2.8-4 zoom, but I don't think $1000 is too much to ask for a f/2.8 zoom.
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  11. burdickjp

    burdickjp Mu-43 Veteran

    Feb 25, 2013
    Tamron and Sigma both do well for other systems. But we get nothing but rumors for u4/3.
  12. mattia

    mattia Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    May 3, 2012
    The Netherlands
    Sigma has been doing fantastic things for DSLR's these days. If I was to buy a set if glass for a canon or Nikon FF I would be sorely tempted to get a full set of 1.4 primes - the 50 is gorgeous. I was hoping they would do something like that for MFT or Sony's full frames. So far not looking like it will happen though...
  13. e_kjellgren

    e_kjellgren Mu-43 Regular

    Oct 17, 2011
  14. speedandstyle

    speedandstyle Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    I love my Sigma 17-70mm f2.8-4 for Nikon. If the Olympus 12-40mm f2.8 had been a 12-60mm f2.8-4{like their 4/3 lens} I would have pre-ordered one! For me 40mm stops way too short. I do wish Sigma and/or Tamron would make more m4/3 lenses. Both companies make great lenses at good prices.
  15. burdickjp

    burdickjp Mu-43 Veteran

    Feb 25, 2013
  16. RichDesmond

    RichDesmond Mu-43 Veteran

    Nov 18, 2011
    I don't think it is either, but I do wish that something like a 12-50 F4 existed.
  17. T N Args

    T N Args Agent Photocateur

    Dec 3, 2013
    Adelaide, Australia
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    call me Arg
    This is rather ironic, considering the usual plea is for fuji to offer a lens system to compare with the µ4/3 lens choices!

    If fuji make exactly what you want, go get it.

    Still, it doesn't seem quite logical to me to reject f5.6 zooms as too slow but have no interest in f2.8 zooms. But as they say, there's a market for every product.

    What is your current µ4/3 kit, as a matter of interest? That might help us understand what current µ4/3 lens might be the best alternative. Example: the new Panasonic 14-140mm OIS is probably very close to f4 at 40mm, yet weighs less than the Fuji 18-55!
  18. QualityBuiltIn

    QualityBuiltIn Mu-43 Veteran

    Jan 1, 2011
    Edinburgh, Scotland
    What about a Panasonic 14mm f2.5 and an Olympus 45mm f1.8? You'll get both of these for under £200 each here in the UK, I'd guess that's about your $600 budget US. My limited experience (3 years or so, as a weekend amateur) is that the zooms on M43 are just OK. At least those I can afford. But you can get superb quality primes for modest money.

    And any prime comes with 2 zoom options: walk or crop!?
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  19. DoofClenas

    DoofClenas Who needs a Mirror!

    Nov 9, 2012
    Traverse City, MI
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    My 12-60 works fine for me...it's just a tad large and heavy for some...but an em1 is a must in order to use it
  20. nstelemark

    nstelemark Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    May 28, 2013
    Halifax, Nova Scotia Canada
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    The 14-54ii focuses well on all m43 bodies. The focus speed is the same on the E-M5 and E-M1. The 12-60 (& 50-200) are the real beneficiaries of the E-M1.

    The 18-55 is 2.8 to 4 and the 14-54ii is 2.8 to 3.5. I am not seeing a huge difference in the lens speed with these two lenses.

    The 14-54ii is a bargain in the m43 world I think, given that it is hovering around $350 to $400 on the used market it is a really good choice.
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