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Lens choice help really needed!

Discussion in 'Native Lenses' started by matt_w, Aug 29, 2013.

  1. matt_w

    matt_w Mu-43 Rookie

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    Aug 27, 2013
    I am a Canon kinda guy, shoot with the 7D and 5Dii... but my 10 yo daughter was always nervous with those bodies and an L lens on board. So, just picked up a decent G5 with the 14-42 kit lens, not real hot on this lens but it takes pics.

    I am considering getting her a mild tele, and it looks like I should find a 45-175 or maybe go for the 100-300... But, I am stuck on a the choice of a prime for her. I would like a faster one, maybe the 20/1.7 or Olympus 45/1.8 or Sigma 30/2.8. Are the Sigma's any good? Is the 20 to wide for a walk around lens?

    She will be using it for 4H photography and general use in daily life.

    I will value all opinions, this is a totally new format for me to get accustomed to.

    Thanks Matt
     
  2. beanedsprout

    beanedsprout Mu-43 Veteran

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    Apr 13, 2013
    north central Ohio
    20mm (40mm equiv) is nice, shortest I would go for portraits even though I prefer a telephoto but 40 doesn't have too much distortion. Plus it's a pancake and it's fast. Perfect for street photography.
     
  3. RevBob

    RevBob Super Moderator

    Jun 4, 2011
    NorthWestern PA
    Bob
    The 20mm is a wonderful lens, sharper than the Sigma offerings, and a great walk-around lens. Some consider it slow to focus, but for most subjects it's just fine. The 100-300 is an absolutely awesome lens. It's one of my absolute favorites.
     
  4. agentlossing

    agentlossing Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Jun 26, 2013
    Andrew Lossing
    If budget is an issue, I'd go with the Sigma, they're really quite good, if not 20mm Panasonic sharpness. The main issue I see with them is the larger size when you have these really tiny first party primes, but on a G-series camera they seem like a natural.
     
  5. emptysensor

    emptysensor Mu-43 Veteran

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    Dec 8, 2011
    Virginia
    Joe
    I really, really like my 20/1.7 and it always seems to find its way into my bag, though it is a little slower to focus than other lenses. I think it should be an early entry into any new mu43 kit. For a short inexpensive tele, the 45-150 is an excellent lens at a very reasonable price.
     
  6. Dalton

    Dalton Mu-43 Veteran

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    Jan 24, 2010
    Portland, Oregon USA
    Dan Ferrall
    The Sigma 60mm...

    That Sigma 60mm looks like a fabulous value based on several reviews. I don't see how you could go wrong with it for the price.
    Dan
     
  7. inkista

    inkista Mu-43 Veteran

    332
    Jan 13, 2012
    San Diego, CA
    I say the 45/1.8. Think of it as the equivalent of an EF 85mm f/1.8 USM on your 5D. The 20/1.7 is more like the EF 40mm f/2.8 STM on your 5DmkII.

    A new shooter who's a 10-year-old girl--I'd imagine she might be a little shy about shoving a camera in someone's face, and she's more likely (at first) to shoot long, rather than wide, and would be wowed by more background fuzzy. :)

    It's also a tiny lens. The 20/1.7 is tiny, too, but it's got a larger diameter.
     
  8. jeffryscott

    jeffryscott Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Jul 2, 2010
    Arizona
    For a10-year-old, I would think the Sigma 19 and/or 30 with the Panasonic 45-150 would be an awesome beginner's kit without too much money invested if something were to get lost, dropped or stolen. Something I know would never happen with a 10-year-old at the helm (I have 9 and 11-year-old girls :biggrin:)

    Plus, from reports I've seen of all those lenses, you wouldn't really be sacrificing much (if anything) in image quality.
     
  9. nuclearboy

    nuclearboy Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Jan 28, 2011
    USA
    I would get the Panasonic 20mm or the 19mm sigma. These are great primes at a focal length, at least for me, that I can use almost anywhere. The panasonic 20mm is faster, sharper, and smaller but a little slower to focus. I would start with that.

    I find the 45 or 60 to be too long for a prime unless you are in really wide open spaces.
     
  10. digitalandfilm

    digitalandfilm Mu-43 All-Pro

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  11. matt_w

    matt_w Mu-43 Rookie

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    Aug 27, 2013
    I will look for a 20ish and the 45-150. I thought these would be the ones. No to a good price...

    Sent from my ADR6400L using Mu-43 mobile app
     
  12. psycho-squirrel

    psycho-squirrel Mu-43 Rookie

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    Dec 17, 2012
    Vancouver Canada
    Brian
    I really like the panasonic/leica 25mm summilux prime lens. I just bought it but it is my go to prime (50mm equivalent) lens now. I do own the 45-175mm pani, it's good, but it isn't great, I might swap it for the new 14-140mm when it becomes available. Hope this helps.
     
  13. tjdean01

    tjdean01 Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Feb 20, 2013
    A 10 year old girl would likely be much more willing to learn, less embarrassed, and smarter than a 20 year old girl. A 20 year old would want a pink point and shoot. A 10 year old, however, I would imagine, if she's sincerely interested in dad's hobby, could learn, handle, and enjoy some higher quality equipment.

    I would say, without fail, get her a 28, 40, or 50mm fast prime to learn how to focus and how aperture works. They're under $50.

    The Sigma 30 is a very good lens, can be had used for $130, and is sharp wide open at 2.8. Plus it's relatively pancake-ish.

    No reason to get the Sigma 19 because the Pany 20 is better, but the Pany is like $350 used and the Sigma is probably only $150 or so.

    For me, native primes are not worth it. Even the cheap zooms are good. 40-150 for, example, is very sharp. I like the adapted lenses at those longer lengths.
     
  14. ntblowz

    ntblowz Mu-43 Veteran

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    Nov 13, 2011
    Auckland, New Zealand
    Really? Torturing little kids by giving them manual lens? :p

    To OP: Can I ask why you want to give your daughter a mid tele instead? With mid-tele she will have issues with blurry photos due to higher shutter speed requirement at longer focal length. For me I would rather stick between 30mm to 17mm range. Since the kids like to run around and get together so medium-wide is pretty fine, mid tele would be too long for walk around lens. (unless she is into wild life?)

    Btw I lend my old camera, a GH2 + Leica 25mm 1.4 to my friend's niece (12 year old) to shoot around at one time, some of the photos he took is not bad!

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  15. Dave Reynell

    Dave Reynell Guest

    Matt,

    No one has mentioned it here, but I'd take a look at the Olympus 17mm/2.8. It's well-priced and will give you a slightly wider (and in my opinion) more versatile angle of view than the Panny 20mm/1.7.

    I have the latter, and love it but DO find it a bit "cramped" at times. The Olympus lens IS a bit more bulky than the Panasonic 20mm, but still fairly compact and beautifully built.

    Dave
     
  16. picturewow

    picturewow Mu-43 Regular

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    Jul 16, 2013
    The 20 1.7 is great. A prime will force her to move around, which will make her a better photographer.
     
  17. BLT

    BLT Mu-43 Regular

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    Jan 13, 2013
    London
    James
    20mm is the Best walk around lens in my opinion. . . .

    - Cheap (given the excellent IQ and Speed)
    - Fast f1.8 for low light
    - Pancake design for jacket pocketability

    The two classic 'walk around' Focal lengths are 35mm and 50mm. The Pana 20 gives a 40mm FOV that sits nicely in-between.