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Discussion in 'Micro 4/3 News and Rumors' started by MarylandUSA, Aug 26, 2013.
See it here.
rumor is it will have IBIS. that could move me from u4/3 to e-mount.
I think the most apparent thing going for this is if the rumored price of ~$350-400 is true...
Wasn't this stated in GBP
I might have missed that...
But it's official...
Amazon.com: Sony a3000 Interchangeable Lens Digital 20.1MP Camera: Camera & Photo
They also released some new lenses?
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Why does Sony gear not get me excited?
For some reason I have to agree with you. I love their sensors no doubt but had not really been attracted to their systems.
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I have to say I am quite excited about the A3000 not for myself but for mirrorless. It is taking advantage of the cost advantage of mirrorless technology to put a DSLR camera priced at a lower point than Canikon's entry DSLRs.
Obviously it is pretty low spec - 230k LCD, no IBIS, plastic body. It also seems to me that Sony has foregone the usual mirrorless strategy of pricing their cameras at much higher margins than DSLRs.
It will be interesting to see how well this sells - I hope it sells well.
Not to say their system is bad, but for some reason, Sony's glass just does not excite. M43 as a whole, has some of the most interesting glass for any system. If they flesh out their telephoto line, they'll have all their bases covered!
Isn't this what Panasonic has been doing with their G series? The G series has been doing the SLR-look from the beginning and you can buy last gen bodies at blow out prices (at least in the US).
Ok. I at least half agree with you. The most innovative thing about the A3000 is the price point - US$398 for body including lens. This is pretty much exactly where the G5 is - US$399 for body including lens.
And to some extent, this proves why I think the A3000 is going to be successful. Which mirrorless is the top seller at Amazon at the moment - the E-P5? the GX7? the Canon EOs-M? the Panny G6? Not at all. It is the Panny G5 at its blow out sales price.
Amazon Best Sellers: best Compact System Cameras
Now to me the new Sony A3000 has a number of advantages. It is new and it is selling for the same price as a blow out old model. It has an APS-C sensor which when you are competing against Canikon's lower end model is a significant advantage. It has a sensor with more megapixels than Canikon (and the Panny). And quite frankly it has a better sensor than the Panny and at least as good as the Canikons. Throw in a few bells and whistles - NFC and wifi, undercut the current offerings from Canikon and I think it is looking very good.
Now I know most people dont agree with me but I personally think that what is holding mirrorless back is 'price' - mirrorless is not taking advantage of its inherent competitive advantage which is cost. I know that most people believe in a high margin, high marketing spend strategy for mirrorless but I think it flies against the facts. But we shall see.
I looked at the Sony NEX line before buying my E-PM1. The main thing that held me back was the size of the lenses. As far as I can tell, that difference hasn't changed. If I wanted a camera with lenses the size of the Sony's, I'd probably buy the SL-1. But I think I'll stick with my G5 (which isn't actually all that old) and my mini Pen when I find even the G5 too big.
It won't really change in the foreseeable future as the sensor size is bigger.
They've been floating rumors of a FF NEX for a while now. I wonder if that will be E-mount or not.
With the release of these 3 lenses I guess there will be no FF NEX in the near future yet unless they release the FF version Nex with a bunch of E mount lenses too.
The ILC-3000 is the answer to a question no one asked. Sony is having a hard time figuring out how to blend A-mount and E-mount. A-mount has so many lenses, but E-mount is the idea form factor for most of the public. To me making a tiny A-mount might have been the answer.
turns out the price point is the ONLY innovative thing. and considering the lack of ANY worthwhile features, the price is hardly innovative.
from the dpreview first impressions:
200k dot fixed LCD
200k dot EVF
hard plastic eyecup
no EVF eye sensor
no control dials
2.5fps / 3.5fps manual continuous shooting
plasticky hollow body
springy shutter button
1920x1080 only via AVCHD
i would BEG friends and family to NOT buy this as a gift for anyone. it makes shooting a chore and locks one into a terrible lens selection.
Unfortunately, Sony is cutting a lot of corners to hit that $400 price point:
According to DPreview:
Sony A3000 First Impressions Review: Digital Photography Review
I always thought the rumors of a FF NEX is just hype. In order to do FF, you need to have a comprehensive lens system. Second, the size of FF lenses even if they were to go mirrorless, would still be much bigger unless Sony only plans to release a 28, 35 and 50 trio. Thirdly, I just don't think it's economically viable to cater to the adapted lens crowd and bourgeois Leica snobs who hangs out on Steve Huff's blog all day. :tongue: