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Large Format Camera on my balcony

Discussion in 'Other Systems' started by Danny_SWE, Apr 13, 2014.

  1. Danny_SWE

    Danny_SWE Mu-43 All-Pro

    Apr 30, 2013
    Sweden (Gothenburg)
    One guy in the neighborhood is a photo-enthusiast and wanted to shoot an sunset shot from my balcony. He uses a Large Format Camera with 20x25 cm film (cost 160 SEK, about 17 Euro or 24 USD). So he came today and put it on my balcony with exposure time of about two hours (!). Really cool!! Here is the camera...

    13830350604_7cd7502079_b. Camera Obscura 02 by Zarako, on Flickr

    13830019613_f1b1fe9fe5_b. Camera Obscura 01 by Zarako, on Flickr

    13830016793_7b8d0cb734_b. Camera Obscura 03 by Zarako, on Flickr


    and this is the view, aproximately. He has it closer to the edge and I think it captures wider than this. Will be cool to see the result. This is shot with my E-M5 and 12-60 at 60 seconds.

    13830346874_41f7f60d4c_b. Camera Obscura view by Zarako, on Flickr
     
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  2. Petrochemist

    Petrochemist Mu-43 Top Veteran

    651
    Mar 21, 2013
    N Essex, UK
    Mike
    A camera obscura is a pinhole camera, this one has a lens so is not a camera obscura.
    It's a nice large format monorail camera, 5"x4" is the smallest of the common sizes for large format camreas. (His certainly looks better than the one I've put together from parts)
    It would be interesting to see a shot of the image his camera produces on the ground glass viewing plate - that will show extactly what FOV his lens produces.
     
  3. OzRay

    OzRay Mu-43 Legend

    Jan 29, 2010
    South Gippsland, Australia
    Ray, not Oz
    It looks like a Linhof and bigger than a 5"x4".
     
  4. Danny_SWE

    Danny_SWE Mu-43 All-Pro

    Apr 30, 2013
    Sweden (Gothenburg)
    Thanks for correcting me. Changed that now, embarrasing mistake.

    He said that I could get a copy of the photo later. And the photo is 1:1 the original size of the negative. 20x25cm so it will be quite big :)

    Yes, it's 20x25cm, that's 10x8 inch. Big stuff this, but folded it's not too big camera. But all the equipment filled a photo back pack in the size of a large backpacker back for long expeditions :)
     
  5. pellicle

    pellicle Mu-43 All-Pro

    Feb 10, 2010
    Southport, OzTrailEYa
    pellicle
    Nice looking rig.

    Be careful, it the large format bug bites it can be hard :)

    If you end up going down that path BTZS tubes for developing black and white are well priced and make development much easier and consistent.

    I develop in the bathroom.

    Personally I went down the path of 4x5 cos then I can use a 120 roll back in 6x12 and use more or less the same lenses for both sheets and roll.

    My rig
    http://cjeastwd.blogspot.com/2010/03/toho-4x5-camera.html
     
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  6. Narnian

    Narnian Nobody in particular ...

    Aug 6, 2010
    Midlothian, VA
    Richard Elliott
    This looks more like a Sinar than a Linhof to me. Though I have not seen one for years.

    i used several 4"x5" but ended up with 6x9 cm (2 1/4" x 3 1/4") view camera and field camera as a "micro" alternative. plus I could use 120 roll film which was cheaper and easier to work with than 4"x5".

    I I almost bought an 8"x10" but did not want to only do contact prints and would not have enough $ (or room) for an enlarger
     
  7. pellicle

    pellicle Mu-43 All-Pro

    Feb 10, 2010
    Southport, OzTrailEYa
    pellicle
    Hi

    just to be the devil
    even 600dpi scans of 8x10 on an Epson 700 are simply stunning ... if you have the RAM 1200DPI makes stunning prints that are outsourced to say a specialist in carbon ink printing.

    go on ... you know you want it ;-)
     
  8. Petrochemist

    Petrochemist Mu-43 Top Veteran

    651
    Mar 21, 2013
    N Essex, UK
    Mike
    I was thinking of a close-up shot of the glass screen with his camera's shutter open. A sort of through the viewfinder shot that wouldn't be anywhere near as high resolution as his shot but would be instantly available. Not a replacement for the copy print but additional to it.

    20cm X 25cm is indeed 10"x8" (don't know what happened to my maths yesterday) so a bit more than 'quite big'. I certainly wouldn't want to carry round anything as big as that!
     
  9. OzRay

    OzRay Mu-43 Legend

    Jan 29, 2010
    South Gippsland, Australia
    Ray, not Oz
    We used to use Polaroid film to do just that (get an instant preview of the shot).
     
  10. cmpatti

    cmpatti Mu-43 Veteran

    263
    May 8, 2011
    Berkeley, CA
    I shot with 8x10 cameras (several of them) years ago, and you can take it from me that hauling a 35lb kit consisting of 8x10 camera, film holders (3 or 4 meaning you're limited to 6 or 8 shots), lenses, dark cloth and a very large tripod on a lengthy hike is no picnic. If you're not enlarging (which I didn't), the main attraction was the ability to contact print in various "alternative" processes. I tried platinum, cyanotype, van dyke, POP, and contact papers (e.g., Azo), along with others I'm probably forgetting. After the thrill of mixing chemicals wore off and digital matured, I didn't see the point, since there are few alt. process "looks" that are beyond the combined capabilities of digital capture and inkjet printing. (Tintype may be challenging, but you can outsource the printing.) While contact prints are reputed to have magical qualities, at 8x10 I really think I can get all the quality my eyes can see with mFT. In fact, most of the digital techniques used to copy the look of these old processes involve compromising the image in some way.
     
  11. pellicle

    pellicle Mu-43 All-Pro

    Feb 10, 2010
    Southport, OzTrailEYa
    pellicle
    Brett Weston

    sums it up perfectly if you ask me.

    although I've been known to be a maschoist ... and drag my stuff Km into rainforest. I do both ;-)

    usage-environments.

    6663357-md.

    but the side of the road is often just as good
    6584579-md.

    (or the side of the bush track where the 4x4 can go to)
    6459500-md.

    While I mostly do stitching these days there are still times when nothing else but a single shot will get it.

    Sometimes one wishes to control the focal plane (which LF makes easier)
    7097501-md.

    But with a tilt adapter you can do it using legacy lenses with m4/3 too
    http://cjeastwd.blogspot.com/2014/01/a-different-slant-on-things.html

    :)
     
  12. Danny_SWE

    Danny_SWE Mu-43 All-Pro

    Apr 30, 2013
    Sweden (Gothenburg)
    If 43rumors are correct Panasonic might have a light-field cam in patent :) would be cool

    Sent from my Lenovo K910 using Tapatalk
     
  13. OzRay

    OzRay Mu-43 Legend

    Jan 29, 2010
    South Gippsland, Australia
    Ray, not Oz
    That's not a patent for a light, field-camera, but for a light-field camera sensor as in the Lytro camera, where you can set the focus point after taking the photo.
     
  14. Ulfric M Douglas

    Ulfric M Douglas Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 6, 2010
    Northumberland
    It surely will!
    When's he developing it?
     
  15. Danny_SWE

    Danny_SWE Mu-43 All-Pro

    Apr 30, 2013
    Sweden (Gothenburg)
    Don't know, he said Tuesday but haven't heard anything. Will have to wait a little.

    Sent from my Lenovo K910 using Tapatalk
     
  16. m4/3boy

    m4/3boy Mu-43 Veteran

    306
    Jul 21, 2013
    No they aren't. The 700/750 leave a lot of detail on the table compared to a drum scan.
     
  17. pellicle

    pellicle Mu-43 All-Pro

    Feb 10, 2010
    Southport, OzTrailEYa
    pellicle
    Hi
    Please note that I did not say the Epson is the best scanner, but if you do a 600dpi scan of the film and aren't stunned by tonals and textures I'll be surprised. Have you scanned 8x10 sheet negative? Secondly no one questions the ability of the epsons to produce right out to 1600 and some say 2000 DPI, its only beyond that you see differences to a leaf. Keep in mind that you just can't get a 10x8 into an imacon or similar high res scanner.
    :)
     
  18. m4/3boy

    m4/3boy Mu-43 Veteran

    306
    Jul 21, 2013
    I've owned and used the 4990,700,&750 scanners and none of them are able to fully resolve the detail on sheet film, 4x5, 5x7, or 8x10. Details are mush. Why would you want to scan at less than optimum?

    I have no idea why you refer to an Imacon since as far as I know the Imacon can't scan sheet film.

    BTW, its SPI not DPI.
     
  19. barry13

    barry13 Super Moderator; Photon Wrangler

    Mar 7, 2014
    Southern California
    Barry
    I've owned and driven a bunch of sports cars and none of them can go 267MPH like the Bugatti Veyron Super Sport can. Throttle response is mushy. Why would you want to drive at less than maximum possible speed?

    Barry