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Just Shot - Gf1 vs. Ep-1/ Kit Zooms on Auto

Discussion in 'This or That? (MFT only)' started by Alanroseman, Dec 26, 2010.

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  1. Alanroseman

    Alanroseman Super Moderator Emeritus

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    I've been communicating in another thread about the purchase of some legacy glass.

    As I own both the GF1 and the EP 1, I decided to put them on the tripod in full auto and shoot the same shot with both.

    I really have enjoyed both cameras, and with both in my possession, it's never easy to choose between them... unless one of them has the 20mm on it.. then it's easy. I love the 20mm pancake!

    Here they are....

    On the left: Vario / 14mm on full auto

    On the right: Zuiko / 14mm on full auto
     

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  2. Alanroseman

    Alanroseman Super Moderator Emeritus

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    PS. Didn't touch either shot. Imported them as JPG and posted them. Even when I realized the GF1 was not in full screen mode.
     
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  3. ~tc~

    ~tc~ Mu-43 Hall of Famer

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    Nice house!
     
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  4. carpandean

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    14-45mm (not 14-42mm) on the Panny, right?
     
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  5. Alanroseman

    Alanroseman Super Moderator Emeritus

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    Yes the standard Pany kit zoom, then the standard Oly kit zoom.

    Both at 14mm...
     
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  6. qball

    qball Mu-43 Regular

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    Were all the other settings the same? White balance? Color settings? Auto ISO? There are still a lot of variables that can affect the images.
     
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  7. Alanroseman

    Alanroseman Super Moderator Emeritus

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    Set the Pany to Ai
    Set the Oly to AUTO

    Let the cameras figure it out for themselves.

    I did notice the Oly decided on a decidedly higher ISO.

    I could duplicate my very unscientific test again, and make sure to set the ISO the same..
     
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  8. Narnian

    Narnian Nobody in particular ...

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    I could not agree more. Forget the lenses. ;)

    Those have to be among the largest planks I have seen in a house. Gorgeous.
     
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  9. Pelao

    Pelao Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Interesting about the ISO: I am in the middle of some comparison tests and also see the Oly choosing higher values. Although, I can't yet say it's always the case.
     
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  10. carpandean

    carpandean Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    The standard Panny kit zoom for newer cameras is actually their 14-42mm; for older bodies (GH1, G1), they still ship with the older (but arguably better) 14-45mm. That's why I wanted to confirm that you used the latter (assumed you got it with the GF1.)
     
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  11. Ulfric M Douglas

    Ulfric M Douglas Mu-43 Hall of Famer

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    Stop talking about cameras, let's talk about that lovely floor. Those pine floorboards look about 12" across! That's WIDE. What kind of varnish/wax do you have on them? Look, four nails per plank per joist, never seen that before. You could've moved that ugly rubber mat on the right before taking the picture ... but its still lovely.
    Yuletidings!
     
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  12. Alanroseman

    Alanroseman Super Moderator Emeritus

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    The Panny is in fact 1 14-45 mm kit zoom. NOT a 14 - 42...
     
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  13. Alanroseman

    Alanroseman Super Moderator Emeritus

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    You are correct! I could have moved the rubber mat...if we weren't in the middle of a blizzard... The shot was taken just to compare the kit zooms. No planing or arranging of any kind.

    Popped the OLY on a tripod and shot, then same with the Panny.

    I live in SE Mass, we were / are getting buried in snow here, the rubber mat will be a fixture for the next 2 weeks or so.......

    I'm glad you appreciate the King Pine floor boards. Part of my house was built in the early 1800's, and was originally a 1 room schoolhouse.
     
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  14. Alanroseman

    Alanroseman Super Moderator Emeritus

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    Here's a shot with a ruler to answer your questions.

    Panny 20mm with built in flash, hence the hot spot, which I apologize for in advance. Documentary shot for scale only..

    We have about 18" of snow so far....
     
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  15. blue

    blue Mu-43 Veteran

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    surely this is a exposure and jpeg test ?

    To check the lens it would be different lens on same body. I think these pics show how Oly and Pana expose and process the images though. The GF1 has blown the highlights more but better shadow detail, EP1 more contrast etc.

    And, yes nice floor !
     
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  16. Alanroseman

    Alanroseman Super Moderator Emeritus

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    Yes, you would be correct in that statement.

    Thing is, I wanted to see the difference between the two cameras with their kit zooms.
    You know, the whole deal. OLY in auto / kit zoom - Pany in Ai / kit zoom.
     
    Alanroseman, Dec 27, 2010
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  17. CincinnatiDan

    CincinnatiDan Mu-43 Rookie

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    I love your wood floors.
     
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  18. Alanroseman

    Alanroseman Super Moderator Emeritus

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    Thanks we like them too!
     
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  19. russell

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    I reckon next time Alan will take two pics of a dog turd to keep people focussed on what he's trying to demonstrate :tongue:.

    P.S. Nice floor Alan :thumbup:
     
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  20. Alanroseman

    Alanroseman Super Moderator Emeritus

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    Well, maybe not to that extreme, but the subject matter does seem to have overshadowed my goal.
     
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