Just how shallow DoF can M43 achieve - car photography

Discussion in 'Open Discussion' started by Bl0at3r, Jul 27, 2014.

  1. Bl0at3r

    Bl0at3r Mu-43 Regular

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    Alan
    This is not intended to knock M43 and is not intended to start a DSLR vs M43 argument, but....

    I am really interested in whether I can achieve the type of shallow DoF/subject isolation/3d effect automative photos that I like without adding a fake PS background blur.

    A quick google images example (not sure what camera/lens this was with):

    3961640246_bf4765df8d_b.

    I own 20mm and 14mm Panasonic primes for m43 and have access to (through work) a D800 with 50mm f1.8 and 85mm 1.4 and a 5D2 with the 24-105 f4 lens so know what FF can do.

    I assume I'd need to buy a lens as not really succeeded with the 14 or 20 primes - can a Pan 42.5mm or Oly 75mm achieve the same results? Or even the 35-100 2.8 Pan?
     
  2. Bl0at3r

    Bl0at3r Mu-43 Regular

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    Alan
    Another example...

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  3. Bl0at3r

    Bl0at3r Mu-43 Regular

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    Alan
    Ok some quick and completely un-scientific tests with a small selection of the lenses I had to hand... oh, and sorry the car is dirty :(

    Nikon D800 with 50mm @ f1.4
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    Nikon D800 with 85mm @ f1.4
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    Panasonic GX1 with 20mm @ f1.7
    [​IMG]

    Panasonic GX1 with 14-42 @ 42mm f5.6
    [​IMG]
     
  4. Bl0at3r

    Bl0at3r Mu-43 Regular

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    Alan
    D800 with 50mm @ f1.4
    [​IMG]

    D800 with 85mm @ f1.4
    [​IMG]

    Panasonic GX1 with 20mm @ f1.7
    [​IMG]

    Panasonic GX1 with 14-42 @ 42mm f5.6
    [​IMG]
     
  5. Bl0at3r

    Bl0at3r Mu-43 Regular

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    Alan
    And some lovely full frame 85mm f1.4 bokeh..
    [​IMG]
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  6. Bl0at3r

    Bl0at3r Mu-43 Regular

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    Alan
    And the 20mm and f1.7...
    [​IMG]

    And here is a 20mm @ f1.7 shot I took before with a little bit of bokeh...

    Vee Dub
    by thebloater, on Flickr
     
  7. Bl0at3r

    Bl0at3r Mu-43 Regular

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    Alan
    So what does any of that prove? no idea :confused:

    It didn't help that I wasn't really comparing like for like - ideally would have tested with the 42.5mm f1.2 or the 45mm f1.8 against the 85mm Nikon, but I don't own either of those - yet!

    On another forum I learnt that if I am comparing say the Nikon 85mm f1.4 with M43, I would need a 42.5mm f0.7 to achieve equivalent background blur. Or the Nikon 50mm f1.8 I would need a 25mm f0.95.
     
  8. barry13

    barry13 Super Moderator; Photon Wrangler

    Mar 7, 2014
    Southern California
    Barry
    Voightlander has some f0.95 lenses for mft.

    Or borrow a Pana 42.5 or Oly 45 or 75 and try them; they won't have as much blur as FF, but they may well be satisfactory.

    Barry


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  9. RobWatson

    RobWatson Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Nikon 85mm F1.4used in conjunction with Metabones speedbooster nets ~60mm F1.2 which renders fairly well. When I get home I'll post some shots for kicks.
     
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  10. F/Stop

    F/Stop Mu-43 Veteran

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    Brian Y.
    as for a native lens, the 75mm 1.8 MIGHT be close... but the reference image has alot of background compression, probably a 200 f/2 or somewhere close to the focal length.. just my guess.. but you never know, could be a 85 1.2 canon :biggrin:
     
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  11. Petrochemist

    Petrochemist Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Mike
    The 50mm /1.4 I was using today on a RJ focal converter is a cheaper option that also works pretty well. Due to the bright sunshine though I had to shut down the aperture somewhat even with a CPL mounted my G5 couldn't handle the light.
     
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