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Iso 409,600

Discussion in 'Other Genres' started by GFFPhoto, Apr 6, 2014.

  1. xdayv

    xdayv Color Blind

    Aug 26, 2011
    Tacloban City, Philippines
    Dave
    I'll wait for Micro 4/3s to reach that haha!
     
  2. GFFPhoto

    GFFPhoto Mu-43 All-Pro

    Feb 24, 2013
    I wont switch, but I love how Sony really pushes forward with camera innovation.
     
  3. OzRay

    OzRay Mu-43 Legend

    Jan 29, 2010
    South Gippsland, Australia
    Ray, not Oz
    From DPR (I loved this statement):

    And then they show this:

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  4. dhazeghi

    dhazeghi Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 6, 2010
    San Jose, CA
    Dara
    As good as ISO 400k looks on paper, I'm doubting the sensor here is any better on noise than the Canon and Nikon's FF flagships, meaning their ISO 102k will be like our ISO 25k, and their 400k will be two stops worse (or at least 4 stops beyond being even marginally usable).
     
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  5. rezatravilla

    rezatravilla Mu-43 Top Veteran

    532
    Aug 7, 2013
    Indonesia
    Reza Travilla
    I think Sony should focus on producing their new EF mount lenses since so few options there rather than a new body. Wrong strategy. in fact Sony ruined A7 and A7r's product life cycles.
     
  6. OzRay

    OzRay Mu-43 Legend

    Jan 29, 2010
    South Gippsland, Australia
    Ray, not Oz
    That's not entirely unusual with Sony. They seem to be looking for something and don't quite appear to know what it is, but they want plenty of it.

    Re the ISO, considering that Sony produces one of the best sensors around, be it in a Nikon or Sony camera, I think the high ISO results could be reasonable. I'm also basing this on the fact that they have gone to a 12MP sensor in FF, so as to have the largest possible photosites available.
     
  7. Jonathan F/2

    Jonathan F/2 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 10, 2011
    Los Angeles, CA
    The new Nikon D4S has similar high ISO results, but I think it's worth noting that the A7S sensor is 12mp which would allow a bit more leeway with bigger pixels. If I shot MF, I'd get this camera because even the worst of glass looks good at that pixel density. Though it really depends how well Sony's image processing is at those higher ISOs? For example, Nikon regularly pulls better performance numbers over Sony cameras using the same sensor.
     
  8. Jonathan F/2

    Jonathan F/2 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 10, 2011
    Los Angeles, CA
    They should reduce megapixels to something like 8mp and it might be possible. :wink:
     
  9. TheRenaissanceMan

    TheRenaissanceMan Mu-43 Regular

    84
    Oct 11, 2013
    I disagree. The A7, A7R, and A7S are well-differentiated and each built with a different purpose in mind. We have the A7R as our landscape/studio resolution monster, the A7S as our low-light king and videographer's dream, and the A7 as our entry level all-rounder. They're all complimentary. If they continue to be aggressive in filling out their lens roadmap over the next few years, I could Sony converting a lot of photographers.

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  10. OzRay

    OzRay Mu-43 Legend

    Jan 29, 2010
    South Gippsland, Australia
    Ray, not Oz
    The 5MP E-1 did take some mighty good photographs (so did the Nikon D2H at4MP) and can achieve some impressively large prints. If current technology was applied to a m4/3 5MP sensor, there's no saying what it could achieve.
     
  11. OzRay

    OzRay Mu-43 Legend

    Jan 29, 2010
    South Gippsland, Australia
    Ray, not Oz
    But what about all the Sony alpha and Nex cameras? There just seems to be too many options, with a lot of overlap. Sony has had a long time to convert photographers since it bought out Minolta, but the numbers haven't gone in their favour, when you consider Nikon/Canon.
     
  12. mjw

    mjw Mu-43 Veteran

    215
    Sep 23, 2013
    Seattle, WA
    Matt
    A 4MP m43 camera could be kind of neat.
     
  13. TheRenaissanceMan

    TheRenaissanceMan Mu-43 Regular

    84
    Oct 11, 2013
    I was talking strictly about their full frames; the NEX series has indeed been a mess, largely due to the sparse and lackluster lens choices. I think they have their eyes on the prize with their FE optics. I spoke with a Sony rep at work the other day who let me test out his A7 with the 55mm f/1.8, and let me tell you--that is a special lens. I was floored. The 35mm 2.8 (though a little slow for my taste) tests well too, as does the f/4 zoom.

    YMMV, but I see a lot to like about Sony's full frame system, particularly with this newest announcement. I shoot as much or more video as I do stills and often work at events with limited light, so the A7S is pushing my buttons in all the right ways. ;)

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  14. OzRay

    OzRay Mu-43 Legend

    Jan 29, 2010
    South Gippsland, Australia
    Ray, not Oz
    I like the Sony 'A7' system, but it's whether they can remain consistent or do what they have done with their other camera systems. Can they keep running three separate systems?

    Wouldn't it be interesting if Sony only had two systems, FF aka the A7 system and say m4/3 (given they have some arrangements with Olympus)?
     
  15. Jonathan F/2

    Jonathan F/2 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 10, 2011
    Los Angeles, CA
    I had a D2H for the longest time, before upgrading to the D2X/D200 and man I thought having 12/10mp was a huge jump. Shooters are so spoiled nowadays with their ultra high res cameras! :biggrin:
     
  16. TheRenaissanceMan

    TheRenaissanceMan Mu-43 Regular

    84
    Oct 11, 2013
    They have the FF A7 system and the APS-C Alpha system (which I can see becoming like saying Canon has the EF FF system and the EF-S APS-C system). What's their third system? As far as I know, they've dropped their SLT line.

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  17. OzRay

    OzRay Mu-43 Legend

    Jan 29, 2010
    South Gippsland, Australia
    Ray, not Oz
    From what I understand, Sony is now calling everything Alpha and still have the traditional DSLR bodies (with mirror), the Nex bodies and now the A7 bodies (without mirror). Three systems, three different lens mounts. Which will become their bread and butter?
     
  18. GFFPhoto

    GFFPhoto Mu-43 All-Pro

    Feb 24, 2013
    Sony has a bad habit of abandoning tech standards they create. The FF mirrorless seems to be the way they are headed... for now.
     
  19. TheRenaissanceMan

    TheRenaissanceMan Mu-43 Regular

    84
    Oct 11, 2013
    I think Sony's done with the A-mount system and taking the full dive into mirrorless.

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