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Is OMD EM1 II worth buying for Nokton 17.5?

Discussion in 'Olympus Cameras' started by Ondra, Feb 9, 2018.

  1. Ondra

    Ondra New to Mu-43

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    Feb 9, 2018
    Do you think it is worth upgrading from OMD EM5 (1st version) to EM1 II, when I shoot 90% with the manual lens Nokton 17.5 f0.95? Will there be any significant difference? Thanks all for your comments and help.
     
  2. TNcasual

    TNcasual Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Dec 2, 2014
    Knoxville, TN
    You would be getting improved IBIS, sensor, image processor, and maybe some other things.

    Only you can determine if that is worth the cost. If you are happy with what you currently get, I wouldn't see the need.
     
  3. pdk42

    pdk42 One of the "Eh?" team

    Jan 11, 2013
    Leamington Spa, UK
    You'll get focus peeking (not that I think that it's particularly accurate) and a slightly better sensor. You also get the ability to add lens data to the Exif. That's quite useful!
     
  4. TNcasual

    TNcasual Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Dec 2, 2014
    Knoxville, TN
    Dammit. The E-M1ii does that too!

    I guess I have to reserve that feature as something I will get whenever I upgrade.
     
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  5. gryphon1911

    gryphon1911 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 13, 2014
    Central Ohio, USA
    Andrew
    If you don't have an issue gripping the PEN-F, that is also a great camera to use for manual focus and adapted lenses. It provides for input of MF/adapted lens data also.
    Buying used PEN-F will save you some money too...unless you really need the hot rod features of the EM1.2.
     
  6. Ondra

    Ondra New to Mu-43

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    Feb 9, 2018
    Thank you guys. Nokton is quite heavy, so I have a grip on my current EM5. Thats why I thought the EM1 II would be the way to go. PEN-F is great, but I would have to add a grip, which does not fit to the PEN-F style. It seems that when shooting with the manual Nokton I would not really utilize benefits of the EM1 II, so I probably stay with EM5.
     
  7. TNcasual

    TNcasual Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Dec 2, 2014
    Knoxville, TN
    A good upgrade path would probably be a E-M5iii whenever it is released. It will most likely have the new sensor, upgraded IBIS, processor, peaking, lens profiles, and some other goodies we don't know about (hopefully.)
     
  8. Ondra

    Ondra New to Mu-43

    4
    Feb 9, 2018
    Yeah, maybe this could be the way to go as well. Thanks for advice, I will wait. Another option is moving to digital FF, but I somehow dislike Sony A7 cameras. I have some Leica M mount glasses for my M6 film camera, so I thought I could use it. But I really enjoy Nokton 17.5 character and ability to close focus.
     
  9. TNcasual

    TNcasual Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Dec 2, 2014
    Knoxville, TN
    You can use that M glass on your E-M5. All it takes is a cheap dumb adapter.
     
  10. pdk42

    pdk42 One of the "Eh?" team

    Jan 11, 2013
    Leamington Spa, UK
    When I had the CV 17.5 I used with the Pen-F a lot and it works fine without a grip (but I do have a leather half case which improves the grip somewhat).
     
  11. Ondra

    Ondra New to Mu-43

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    Feb 9, 2018
    Thats true. But then I loose 35mm focal length. I like the idea to shoot all things with one lens and 35mm is ideal for me.
     
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  12. x_holger

    x_holger Mu-43 Regular

    62
    Aug 14, 2012
    Berlin, Germany
    The Voigtländer 17.5mm is rather heavy and big. I use a CV 42.5mm quite often and usually enjoy the bigger handgrip of the E-M1 Mk.I / II
     
  13. Michael Schneider

    Michael Schneider Mu-43 Regular

    43
    Sep 28, 2017
    I use the em1 mkii with the really right stuff L bracket. I use multiple manual focus adapted lens, and the 4 voightlanders.
     
  14. walter_j

    walter_j Mu-43 Top Veteran Subscribing Member

    603
    Sep 10, 2013
    Hagwilget, B.C., Canada
    Walter
    I'd say no. The em1 ii won't add much to the 17.5. I'm still unsure if the huge cost of moving from Mk i to Mk ii is justified. If you are happy with the em5, there's no need to upgrade. Lots of great features for pro lenses, but little improvement for the 17.5. Maybe check out the Panasonic for a bigger evf. A bigger evf should make focussing easier.
     
  15. Ross the fiddler

    Ross the fiddler Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    As an owner of E-M5, E-M1 & E-M1 Mk II, using the latter is like chalk & cheese with the E-M5. Everything is so responsive on the E-M1 Mk II compared to the E-M5, plus the image quality is better, not to mention all the added features.
     
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  16. walter_j

    walter_j Mu-43 Top Veteran Subscribing Member

    603
    Sep 10, 2013
    Hagwilget, B.C., Canada
    Walter
    He wonders if he should upgrade when his main lens is a manual focus CV 17.5. I like the 17.5 too, and find the pace of using it is quite different than a autofocus pro lens. With the CV, composing and focusing is probably a process that he enjoys (I do anyways), and a faster camera with loads of bells and whistles isn't really going to add much when using the CV 17.5. Maybe a Pen F is more suited to the 17.5. Try them both.
     
  17. If you are using MF a worthy upgrade is anything with the latest large high resolution EVF - E-M5 II, E-M1 I or II. It's a lot easier to judge focus with the higher resolution EVF compared to the E-M5 I.
     
  18. tkbslc

    tkbslc Mu-43 Legend

    If you are only using manual lenses, you might find that upgrading to FF to be a better use of your funds. The original A7 and A7 II are getting very cheap these days, even new.
     
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  19. Ross the fiddler

    Ross the fiddler Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    And then another lens?!
     
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