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Is m43 flat? Part II to that ridiculous blog post

Discussion in 'Open Discussion' started by Generationfourth, Nov 19, 2015.

  1. Generationfourth

    Generationfourth Mu-43 Regular

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    Sep 11, 2015
  2. gryphon1911

    gryphon1911 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 13, 2014
    Central Ohio, USA
    Andrew
    The guy has no clue what he is talking about really deserves to be ignored.
     
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  3. agentlossing

    agentlossing Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Jun 26, 2013
    Andrew Lossing
    What he said. Simple as different perspectives based on the relative distance from the sensor and the front element of the lens. What a bunch of boring nonsense. The guy needs to get outside and stop taking photos of a stuffed animal!
     
  4. nstelemark

    nstelemark Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    May 28, 2013
    Halifax, Nova Scotia Canada
    Larry
    Personally I like him :bravo-009:. I got my smile for the day! :biggrin:
     
  5. siftu

    siftu Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Mar 26, 2015
    Bay Area, CA
    siftu
    Honestly I struggle to see the difference and if my photography comes down to differences like that I have bigger issues.
     
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  6. TNcasual

    TNcasual Mu-43 All-Pro

    Dec 2, 2014
    Knoxville, TN
    I would really like to look at this new post. But I refuse to add to his pageviews.
    :p
     
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  7. ijm5012

    ijm5012 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Oct 2, 2013
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Ian
    LOL, this stuff is great to read. Here's one that I really liked:

    "If you have followed the instructions well, you would have seen that the low-element count Nikkor definitely pops more than the lumix, but the differences are more subtle than expected."

    Now I'm no word smith, so I decided to reference the Marriam-Webster dictionary to get an accurate definition, and here's what I found.
    • Definite: free of all ambiguity, uncertainty, or obscurity. unquestionable, decided
    • Subtle: hard to notice or see, not obvious
    Now knowing EXACTLY what the words mean, how can something be "definite" and "subtle" at the same time?
     
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  8. bikerhiker

    bikerhiker Mu-43 All-Pro

    Dec 24, 2013
    Canada
    David
    The end of Photography bubble is near when you hear this kind of stuff!! Just like the end of any economic bubble -- housing, stock, bonds etc... People just use all kinds of pseudo-science to justify certain gear.. Love the drama!! Love the stuffed doll! And loved the fantastic entertainment! I'll just wait for those gear to become cheap once the pseudo-science wears off. And it will and then -- I make the killing to buy cheap gear! LOL!~ :dance4:
     
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  9. coffeecat

    coffeecat Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Aug 4, 2012
    SW England
    Rob
    You made the right choice - I read some of his posts and now I feel like writing to him to demand a refund for the wasted 10 minutes!

    It reminds me of the worst kind of "audiophile" reviews of £1000 speaker cables. Although, to be fair to the guy, he did actually explicitely compare his comparisons to the whole audiophile thing in one post...

    Still, it's Friday in a couple of hours, so, yeah.
     
  10. Bhupinder2002

    Bhupinder2002 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    :thiagree:, Its crazy how people can find so much time to waste and such stuff . Too much availability of time , gear and money will limit creativity and one usually ends up doing weired things :confused-53:
     
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  11. fredlong

    fredlong Just this guy...

    Apr 18, 2011
    Massachusetts USA
    Fred
    I'd like to make some comments after reading this guys article but I'm simply speechless :dash2:
     
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  12. Halaking

    Halaking Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Dec 17, 2012
    Los Angeles
    Morris
    "The rabbit head is rounder in the right side" ....LOL
     
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  13. T N Args

    T N Args Agent Photocateur

    Dec 3, 2013
    Adelaide, Australia
    call me Arg
    By far the best part of the article is the photo of the GX8 under the title. So yummy... belongs in our porn thread.
     
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  14. Generationfourth

    Generationfourth Mu-43 Regular

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    Sep 11, 2015
    Right? my three favorite lenses as well. Must've been taken with a FF camera with a 1 element lens.
     
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  15. gryphon1911

    gryphon1911 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 13, 2014
    Central Ohio, USA
    Andrew
    Where there is that!! :D
     
  16. gryphon1911

    gryphon1911 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 13, 2014
    Central Ohio, USA
    Andrew
    I'm generally not a fan of the Panasonic bodies, was not a fan of the GX7. However, that GX8 does look nice. Going to the camera shop this weekend to check one out. Mkes me curious what Olympus will do with the restyled PEN cameras. I do like me some rangefinder-esque cameras, and the PEN form factor does intrigue me....but I much prefer the built in finder!!
     
  17. Pecos

    Pecos Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Jan 20, 2013
    The Natural State
    Wow.
    And I thought pixel-peepers were bad.
     
  18. Klorenzo

    Klorenzo Mu-43 All-Pro

    Mar 10, 2014
    Lorenzo
    I noticed too the difference in perspective: I think the camera height, the lens length all contributes to some real differences even from the same tripod location. The Lumix 15 is the worst case:

    http://static1.squarespace.com/stat...fe4b00c9cc567ed2f/1447482752574/?format=2500w

    the angle is a little different and the DoF is extremely different too (check the bunny body and the "Libro Arte" text. Assuming he is actually doing a f4 vs f8 comparison this is quite strange, I suppose the focus distance is so small that a couple of centimetres can make that difference.
    A comparison:

    23179980321_d250e5a167_c.

    And he is comparing different bodies, formats, lenses...some subtle differences are to be expected.

    I'd like to see his comparison and opinion a Nikon 24/1.8G vs Oly 12/2, a 12 elements vs 11 elements.

    And still I'm confused: the problem is the element count or the m43 sensor format?
     
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  19. gryphon1911

    gryphon1911 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 13, 2014
    Central Ohio, USA
    Andrew
    And so is he....and most others that try to follow his logic. There are some very basic things in the article that the author doesn't understand and tries to pass it off as a "problem". The only "problem" being is that the blogger is misinformed and doesn't understand.
     
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  20. Jonathan F/2

    Jonathan F/2 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 10, 2011
    Los Angeles, CA
    Stop falling for this guy's click bait. Just close this thread and stop giving him undeserved attention!

    Here's a somewhat old article by a REAL working photographer who uses M43 for it's advantages.

    Going Small - by Jack Kurtz
     
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