Agree 100% on the twisty screen bit, Stephen, which is why I'm keeping my beloved E-PL7. For what it's worth, the E-PL8 and the E-M10 Mk II both retain the tilting screen from previous generations. I want to add a second body myself in Feb. or March and I'm really torn about which one. GX8, G85, EM5 Mk II, and the E-M1 Mk I are all strong contenders. No question the E-M1 seems to be the best value for the money. I could care less about video myself, so those features aren't high on my list. As to the Panasonics, it seems like the GX8 gets a bad rap and I'm hoping you can shed some light there. While I don't like the twisty screen, for my own purposes the tilting EVF fills a unique niche and adds 4 megapixels to the equation, a good sized grip, and easier body to handle. The GX85 doesn't have the higher resolution sensor, weather sealing, and the EVF is fixed; it's a non-contender for me on account of no weather sealing. The G85 is another story, and I'm wondering if it's really the better camera with the lower resolution sensor? If video isn't part of the equation, is the G85 still better for stills over the GX8?