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In praise of the Olympus Flash system

Discussion in 'Lighting Forum' started by kevinparis, May 8, 2013.

  1. kevinparis

    kevinparis Cantankerous Scotsman

    Feb 12, 2010
    Gent, Belgium
    I have and OMD, and a couple of months ago I added a FL600R to my existing FL300. Hadn't really explored the whole wireless flash/TTL thing, but this morning I had a go at some product photography and was very pleased with the results.

    I put the two flash guns in separate groups so I could control the relative levels from the camera and set them to TTL.

    I constructed a back drop using some white paper sold in the local supermarket as disposable table cloth, and used a piece of polystyrene foam left over from some building work to create a roof to bounce the 600 off of, and set up the 300 firing through an umbrella- I dialled in +3EV from the camera to this group.

    P5080025.

    I shot with the 50mm 4/3 macro at f22 at 1/160 at ISO 200.

    These are by no means perfect - but the joy of having the camera and the flashes all talking to each other and controlled from the screen on the back of the camera means that you can concentrate on the subject matter

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    P5080009 by kevinparis, on Flickr

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    P5080012 by kevinparis, on Flickr

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    P5080017 by kevinparis, on Flickr

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    P5080023 by kevinparis, on Flickr

    cheers

    Kevin
     
  2. Iansky

    Iansky Mu-43 All-Pro

    Dec 26, 2009
    The Cotswolds, UK
    Nice images and glad it works for you.

    I have the FL600R and unless you have direct line of sight from on camera trigger flash to sensor on FL600R, it will not fire!

    I set my system up the other evening to fire using RC mode and the flash with a shoot through umbrella, it did not trigger unless the on camera trigger flash had direct line of sight with the very, very small slave sensor window on the front of the FL 600R - total pain and no good for single source portraits!

    I am going to try a light sensitive slave trigger to see if this solves the problem - if not, I may have to consider getting rid of it and looking at alternatives.........very frustrating, especially for a £300 flash unit!
     
  3. kevinparis

    kevinparis Cantankerous Scotsman

    Feb 12, 2010
    Gent, Belgium
    thanks Ian... sorry to hear of your woes... I haven't had too many issues with not triggering, even holding the flash behind the camera.. but maybe I am working closer in

    cheers

    K
     
  4. spatulaboy

    spatulaboy I'm not really here

    Jul 13, 2011
    North Carolina
    Vin
    Nice work Kevin! Thanks for sharing your technique with us, I think flash photography is one aspect most enthusiasts tend to ignore.

    Also: Thats a very nice collection you have there!
     
  5. robbie36

    robbie36 Mu-43 All-Pro

    Sep 25, 2010
    Bangkok
    rob collins
    Ian, my experience mirror's your. The FL600r is a great flash but off camera flash triggering just doesnt seem to work reliably.

    This is pretty frustrating and a little annoying. You tend to look a little foolish if you go to all the trouble of setting up the flash and then the flash doesnt work. So I simply dont tend to use the flash off camera.

    I would happily buy a set of radio triggers but I dont think one which uses the Oly flash system exists. If you find a solution to this problem let us know.
     
  6. albert_ang

    albert_ang Mu-43 Regular

    26
    Jun 5, 2012
    Melbourne, Australia
    Olympus flash system is not bad, very similar to Nikon CLS. I just really wish they add Flash-exposure-lock feature which I regularly used when I had my Nikon gears. (Canon has the similar feature too).

    I have the Cactus v5 that works perfectly and reliably. The drawback, it doesn't pass the TTL info, so manual only.
     
  7. Iansky

    Iansky Mu-43 All-Pro

    Dec 26, 2009
    The Cotswolds, UK
  8. fin azvandi

    fin azvandi Mu-43 All-Pro

    Mar 12, 2011
    South Bend, IN
    I've used the FL-36R as a slave (not remote commander or TTL) without direct line-of-sight, but I suspect it depends on how close the gear is to a wall/ceiling in order to pick up the bounce.
     
  9. RobWatson

    RobWatson Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    I was recently having some trouble with using the on camera mini flash as a commander but a strategically placed mirror sorted things out nicely. Not a perfect solution but not too bad for a fixed setup (cam on tripod - flash behind umbrella, etc).
     
  10. robbie36

    robbie36 Mu-43 All-Pro

    Sep 25, 2010
    Bangkok
    rob collins
    This looks pretty good. I am guessing that as it doesnt do TTL it also doesnt do FP (high speed flash sync.) Still it is a reasonable size, pretty cheap and I can certainly handle manual adjustment better than unreliable operation.

    I have a night shoot tomorrow. Will buy a couple and report back.
     
  11. Ned

    Ned Mu-43 Legend

    Jul 18, 2010
    Alberta, Canada
    Very nice work, Kevin! You need a little more light from the right, but other than that the photos look fantastic! Lovely collections you have too.
     
  12. RamblinR

    RamblinR Mu-43 Top Veteran

    545
    Aug 16, 2012
    Sunshine Coast, Qld Australia
    Maria
    I used the RF602 triggers which I also used with my Canon equipment. Work perfectly.

    I understand the Cactus V5 are also another good choice.

    Both cheap wireless systems.
     
  13. kevinparis

    kevinparis Cantankerous Scotsman

    Feb 12, 2010
    Gent, Belgium
    thanks ned... appreciate it

    agree I missed a bit of light to the right... at least now I can stop worrying about getting some good light, I can work on getting the most of it

    it was a fun way to spend a dull day in belgium

    as for the lens collection... well i DID go a bit crazy on ebay 4 years ago...sadly I rarely use them since good m43 primes have appeared... autofocus is a seductive mistress

    cheers

    K
     
  14. fsuscotphoto

    fsuscotphoto Mu-43 Top Veteran

    819
    Feb 15, 2013
    St. Cloud, FL
    Ron
    I think I would hide that book that loudly shouts "Porno" the next time you do a demo! GRIN!!


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  15. kevinparis

    kevinparis Cantankerous Scotsman

    Feb 12, 2010
    Gent, Belgium
    why should I do that? - its a novel by Irvine Welsh, a well known scottish writer :smile: I am not embarrassed... and hopefully you are not offended

    the actual porno is elsewhere :smile:

    cheers

    K
     
  16. fsuscotphoto

    fsuscotphoto Mu-43 Top Veteran

    819
    Feb 15, 2013
    St. Cloud, FL
    Ron
    It takes a LOT more than that to offend me!


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  17. kevinparis

    kevinparis Cantankerous Scotsman

    Feb 12, 2010
    Gent, Belgium
    hmmm... I like a challenge :smile:

    cheers

    K
     
  18. WesternRed

    WesternRed New to Mu-43

    1
    Jul 7, 2013
    Does a radio trigger need to know the intracacies of a manufacturers TTL system ? I understood that all it does is transmitt the appropriate signals for each pin from transmitter to receiver.

    I bought a Triggmaster II kit from Amazon for my OMD - its the Canon model which has the same pinout bar an extra pin which is irrelevant when used on an Oly camera.
    I don't have a suitable flash as yet to test the TTL function but I expect it works.

    Cheers
    WesternRed
     
  19. 0dBm

    0dBm Mu-43 Top Veteran

    859
    Jun 30, 2011
    Western United States
    Kevin,
    Nice ad hoc setup; particularly with the tablecloth and foam monolith. Always good to see creativity with in-situ work.

    Years ago, I borrowed a scarf from a woman's attire that day and a poster board from one of her students to soften and diffuse the light from my flash units. The project was at a local middle school.

    Whatever it takes to get the job done!

    Thanks for sharing.
     
  20. flash

    flash Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Apr 29, 2010
    1 hour from Sydney Australia.
    Gordon
    Ive actually started using an FL6000r as my on camera master plus a couple of FL50r guns as remotes. With a stofen type diffuser and the head pointing straight up I canput the remotes pretty much anywhere. I found the clip on flash nearly useless for anything more than small scale studio set ups.

    but overall I like the Olympus system.

    Gordon