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I must be doing something wrong

Discussion in 'This or That? (MFT only)' started by 2mnycars, Jul 22, 2014.

  1. 2mnycars

    2mnycars Mu-43 Veteran

    277
    Aug 26, 2012
    Toronto
    DaveL
    edit: a setting change is helping a lot!


    History. Had a Photo Store. did weddings, sports, portraits for years. No store-front. Part time. successful, with a diverse customer base. Shut it down when I learned to hate weddings. ( ;) )

    I used Nikon and Leica gear then. All fast glass. My posture still suffers from carrying a brace of F3's with motor drives.

    forward. wanted a lightweight system again.

    My CanonG9 was a delight. I moved on and eventually went mirror less.

    Sony NEX5 and 3 lenses. menus drove me crazy. sold it.

    Olympus OMD M5, kit zoom. grip. I still don't speak Oly. still have it

    Nikon 1 V1, 3 lenses. Had 3 systems on the go. drove me crazy. Kept the dslr. sold the 1V1. sink hole for money.

    traded it actually for an Oly E-MP2 and kit lens.


    My problem is I am having real trouble getting satisfactory images with my Oly gear. moving subjects drive me nuts.

    you all are great. I must be doing something wrong. I sold images for years and years with other gear. published nationally.

    and so far I have she'd a bunch of Oly parts. the rubber gasket on the camera bottom. the rubber eyepiece. twice. the main dial cap
    what gives with Oly
     
  2. Itchybiscuit

    Itchybiscuit Photon Mangler

    512
    Dec 10, 2013
    Glasgow, Scotland
    Ivor
    Time for a Panasonic body? :wink:
     
  3. fransglans

    fransglans Mu-43 Top Veteran

    991
    Jun 12, 2012
    Sweden
    gus
    throw your kitlens in the trash. buy some of the fast oly babies and then u go home and look after the instruction manual to your stuff. cheers ;)
     
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  4. OzRay

    OzRay Mu-43 Legend

    Jan 29, 2010
    South Gippsland, Australia
    Ray, not Oz
    All of my Olympus gear has bounced around the seat or floor of my 4WD for years, sometimes flying off the front seat into the passenger foot well when off-road. I've never had anything break etc. My E-M1 often sits on the floor and my E-P1 hasn't had one thing come loose or fall off since day one. You must have angered the Olympus gods at some point in time. ;)
     
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  5. RobWatson

    RobWatson Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    I wore out two (albeit used) E-P1 and I'm only a casual shooter. Stuff is falling of the E-M5's ...

    I don't have anything besides P&S to compare to (which also got worn out). I'm hard on stuff as a matter of principle. Just ask my mom about me and shoes!

    Never broke a lens except on purpose.
     
  6. 2mnycars

    2mnycars Mu-43 Veteran

    277
    Aug 26, 2012
    Toronto
    DaveL
    My Oly experience isn't good.
    I only have Oly glass. no image stabilization in lenses. Pany body is a choice. However, I have already spent a lot on Oly gear.
     
  7. gryphon1911

    gryphon1911 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 13, 2014
    Central Ohio, USA
    Andrew
    You might not be gelling with the gear. It happens. Took me quite a bit of time to get my EM5 setup to where i love it. Had to get some good primes and skip the kit zoom, did a LOT of camera setup changes. One of the things that the EM5 could use some help on is C-AF.

    Might need to spend more time concentrating on the EM5?
     
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  8. Wisertime

    Wisertime Mu-43 All-Pro

    Aug 6, 2013
    Philly
    Steve
    Get to know the EM5 and add some fast primes. Learn Lightroom or other program for PP.
     
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  9. flamingfish

    flamingfish Mu-43 Top Veteran

    771
    Nov 16, 2012
    Emily
    I can help with only the most minor of your problems.

    The eyecup on the E-M5 is notorious for escaping. See this thread for an alternative suggestion.
     
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  10. wildwildwes

    wildwildwes Mu-43 Veteran

    456
    Jun 9, 2012
    Brooklyn, NY
    Dave,

    Sorry to hear of your whoas. I too suffer with terrible posture after lugging around F3s, F4s, F5s, D1s, D1xs, D2xs, D3s, D700s and now D800s for years (not to mention the Hasselblads and Pentax 67s!). I truly feel your pain! THANK GOD one of my friends inspired me to give the Micro 4/3 system a casual then thorough evaluation. I started off with a humble Oly E-P2 along with a Pany GF-1 and their two respective "kit lenses". Those two cameras forced me to hunker down and LEARN how to shoot with their complex menus, itty-bitty buttons and dials. Most assuredly a different change of pace and a completely different discipline than I'd become accustomed to over the decades! Once everything started to fall in place and shooting with the new gear became more intuitive for me, there was NO turning back. While I'd have to agree that the Oly and Pany gear I currently own isn't quite in the same league with regards to being as battle-tough as my pro-level Nikons -- they sure are damn close and weigh a trifle of the kit I routinely had hanging off my shoulder.

    HANG in there. Take some time to TRULY familiarize yourself with whatever system you decide to put in the hours with. Once you get through the learning curve, you'll start to really enjoy this little system! :2thumbs:
     
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  11. Timmy

    Timmy Mu-43 Regular

    110
    Dec 3, 2013
    Wiltshire - UK
    As per other comments here you should be able to good results photographing moving subjects with your Oly with some practice and perhaps upgrading your kit lens. If you post some photo's and methodology (e.g. shooting mode) the members here can offer some practical advice. E.g. you could be relying on C-AF too much and S-AF (perhaps in conjunction full-time AF) could be the better choice for your photography.

    Having said that if you just can't get on with your EM5 it's probably worth you at least borrowing / hiring a Pany body (e.g. GH3/GH4) - maybe you'll just gel with it, and it apparently the autofocus on these newer Pany bodies is excellent.
     
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  12. QualityBuiltIn

    QualityBuiltIn Mu-43 Veteran

    351
    Jan 1, 2011
    Edinburgh, Scotland
    I don't know if it's Olympus or M43 that is the big difference but I took a full year to get the quality of results I wanted. Even starting in full auto the camera invariably chooses to focus on the wrong target - usually something off-centre but closer than the thing I'm looking at. I still struggle to get focus and exposure right on my black lab.

    Personally I found using prime lenses and working mostly in Aperture Priority with S-AF was a great help. Also, I admit being an amateur, I sometimes select Sports Mode and let the camera hold my hand.
     
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  13. Djarum

    Djarum Super Moderator

    Dec 15, 2009
    Huntsville, AL, USA
    Jason
    Just don't think mFT is up to doing fast sports type photography yet. The E-M1 from what I can tell is getting there. Thats the advantage of the Nikon mirrorless and its phase detect sensors on the chip itself.
     
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  14. gryphon1911

    gryphon1911 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 13, 2014
    Central Ohio, USA
    Andrew
    So long as you have good light. I've had cause to shoot football at night, and the lights used required shooting at ISO 3200 or 6400, and even using a Nikon D300 and 80-200/2.8 or 300/f at those ISO was insufficient in IQ. I needed to switch to full frame D700 to get acceptable to me results.
     
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  15. Wisertime

    Wisertime Mu-43 All-Pro

    Aug 6, 2013
    Philly
    Steve
    I'm confused. You say you have NO IS in lenses, yet have OMD and EPM2 (same two I have), which have IBIS in body. What's the problem?
     
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  16. 2mnycars

    2mnycars Mu-43 Veteran

    277
    Aug 26, 2012
    Toronto
    DaveL
    Someone suggested getting a Panasonic body but My Oly lenses don't have image stabilization....I would have had to buy Panasonic camera body and Pany lenses to have image stabilization.

    The image stabilization in my OMD M5 is excellent
     
  17. ex machina

    ex machina Mu-43 Top Veteran

    806
    Jan 3, 2014
    Northern Virgnia
    The Lumix GX7 has in-body stabilization, fwiw.
     
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  18. gryphon1911

    gryphon1911 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 13, 2014
    Central Ohio, USA
    Andrew
    And a lot of people look favorably upon the GX7, holding that and the GH4 as some of the best bodies from the Panasonic camp in m43.
     
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  19. gryphon1911

    gryphon1911 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 13, 2014
    Central Ohio, USA
    Andrew
    The GH4 is pretty darn close there as well.
     
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  20. 2mnycars

    2mnycars Mu-43 Veteran

    277
    Aug 26, 2012
    Toronto
    DaveL
    Thanks everyone.
    Visited Henry's today where I bought my camera. waste of time.

    edit. capable camera. lovely features. However."....