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Discussion in 'Adapted Lenses' started by scottgreat, Jul 5, 2010.

  1. scottgreat

    scottgreat Mu-43 Rookie

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    Jul 5, 2010
    Just curious between KONICA HEXANON 57mm f/1.2 and KONICA HEXANON 57mm f/1.4 why their price gap is so huge... :eek:
     
  2. qball

    qball Mu-43 Regular

    170
    Jun 19, 2010
    You pay for more light!
     
  3. Bokeh Diem

    Bokeh Diem Mu-43 Top Veteran

    655
    Mar 14, 2010
    Toronto
    .. and you pay for a very narrow depth of field. Be forewarned, the weight difference and size variation are also very noticeable.

    Konica Hexanon Lenses

    Bokeh Diem
     
  4. oris642

    oris642 Mu-43 Regular

    The light passed through the F1.2 is actually 36% more than through the F1.4 because it's to the second power. In this case it is 1.4 x 1.4 / 1.2 x 1.2 = 1.36. Optically this is not easy to do; hence a bigger, heavier lens.

    I had a Voigtlander 35mm F1.2 for a while on a Leica M8 and while fun it was big , heavy, and blocked the viewfinder.
     
  5. scottgreat

    scottgreat Mu-43 Rookie

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    Jul 5, 2010
    wonder if this lens needs to modify to suit E-P2? or just adding a adapter... ?
     
  6. OzRay

    OzRay Mu-43 Legend

    Jan 29, 2010
    South Gippsland, Australia
    Ray, not Oz
    Often, what appears to be an insignificant increase in f stop (ie wider), makes for a significant increases in optical complexity, to maintain image quality wide open. In many technical endeavours, it's often the additional 1%, or less, improvement that becomes the real struggling point. Manufacturers could make f1 lenses (in this case of 35mm format) at relatively low cost, but they'd generally be absolute dogs when it came to image quality.

    Cheers

    Ray
     
  7. scottgreat

    scottgreat Mu-43 Rookie

    10
    Jul 5, 2010
    which means that the lens still usable without modifications? :confused:
     
  8. scottgreat

    scottgreat Mu-43 Rookie

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    Jul 5, 2010
  9. photoSmart42

    photoSmart42 Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Feb 12, 2010
    San Diego, CA
    The nice thing about these cameras is the short flange distance, which means you can adapt just about any lens ever invented to work with it. There are adapters for Konica AR mounts out there you can use with the AR 57 lenses.
     
  10. scottgreat

    scottgreat Mu-43 Rookie

    10
    Jul 5, 2010
    thanks... this is all i want to know. Don't want to get a lens that still need to make a big fuss of it...
     
  11. Brian Mosley

    Brian Mosley Administrator Emeritus

    Dec 15, 2009
    That's right Scott, you can use any of the Hexanon AR fit lenses without modification... you just need the Konica AR to m4/3rds adapter.

    I'd recommend the 40mm f1.8 for a cheap, fast, sharp, compact start... 50mm f1.7, 57mm f1.4 or if you can find one 57mm f1.2 and 135mm f3.2 or 135mm f2.5

    Cheers

    Brian
     
  12. goldenlight

    goldenlight Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jan 30, 2010
    Essex
    John
    Hi Scott. Pete is a very fine amateur photographer who is also very skilled at making mechanical modifications. He is a regular contributer at Olympus UK E-System User Group

    The reason he had to modify his Konica Hexanons was because they were for use on a regular Four Thirds camera. No such worries with :43:, you just attatch the lens to the camera via an easily available adapter. :smile:
     
  13. Brian Mosley

    Brian Mosley Administrator Emeritus

    Dec 15, 2009
    Peter is a good guy :friends:... I use his technique to adapt my Hexanon lenses - so they can be used on 4/3rds without adapter, and m4/3rds with the 4/3rds to m4/3rds adapter :2thumbs:

    Cheers

    Brian
     
  14. lhockings

    lhockings New to Mu-43

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    Jul 16, 2010
    Milton Keynes
    Hi, I'm new to the adapted lens idea, and it looks great fun! However I'm a bit confused by all of the different options. Are any of the Konica lens you list above suitable for Macro? If not can you recommend any? I'm using a G1.

    Many Thanks!!:smile:
     
  15. jambaj0e

    jambaj0e Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Aug 31, 2010

    Hey Brian,
    I'm offered a choice of either the 40mm f1.8, 50mm f1.7 or the 57mm f1.4

    I like to do portrait/model photography, nature shots, closeups, and urban street shots. Which one is the best for me?
     
  16. deirdre

    deirdre Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Aug 9, 2010
    Just to point out the differences:

    Nikon 50mm f/1.8: $120 street price, 157.1g
    Nikon 50mm f/1.4: $330 street price, 229.1g
    Nikon 50mm f/1.2: $700 street price, manual focus, so lower weight than the above two in the same lens, weight 381.0g.